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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ElectricDragon" data-source="post: 4847625" data-attributes="member: 10778">At Nebten and Snowheart: What about the party that turns the shadows then leaves the dungeon? No xp? Shadows were overcome, the fact that they weren't destroyed is more a matter of character level (for the turning) rather than anything else. Turning can destroy undead. If some are destroyed and some are turned; do you only give xp for those destroyed? The wimps give xp; but the challenges don't? If the undead are never met again; and turning gives no xp; then IMHO the party would be cheated. What other class ability that affects monsters when used successfully doesn't contribute to an xp award, but instead reduces it?At Dyson Logos: I like that ruling: same method vs. same creature equals no xp. The party has stopped thinking and is using the tried and true method instead of coming up with a different solution. It would have been easier on the party to find a final solution earlier.Ciao,Dave</blockquote>