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Message: <blockquote data-quote="milotha" data-source="post: 1529408" data-attributes="member: 17122">I agree with with Thornir.   I think that having an xp cost to magic item use is a bad and unbalancing idea.It sounds as if you are going to apply this to penalize the characters for using the items that you have given them or that they have already spent their hard earned xp and cash to create.  This sounds incredibly frustrating to me.  Spell casters:In 3.5, they have seriously toned down the power of many of the wizard's spells.  The magic item creation feats were given to mages in order to balance them out.  It gives them something nice to do for the party and themselves at the expense of gold and xp.  If you make these magic items less useful by having an xp/use cost then you are further nerfing the mages.  Furthermore, mages and clerics are far more likely to be the ones using magic items (scrolls wands, staves, rods, certain misc magic are specific to spell casters) , since their classes are more dependant upon magic items in combat.  So, this once again penalizes the spell casters.  For example: you make a scroll which costs you xp, and then you spend more xp to use it?  Non casters:Are you going to make magic swords and magic armour have an xp cost?  Everytime the fighter swings his +1 sword, there goes some xp!  Oh, wait Bob, you've been wearing that +1 armour for 2 hours, you've lost 120 xp and are now a level lower.This sounds like a nightmare in book keeping to boot.Furthermore, if you are at all worried about meta game tactics, this has so much potential for abuse, I can't even begin to say what estute players would do with this.  Let's knock out this BBEG, put him in a suit of armour, and keep him knocked out for hours.  He'll be first level at the end of it.    Didn't like how you rolled for your hp, and you just crossed over the line, we'll lets put on this ring for a few minutes and presto, instant level drain.  Next, let's cast Nystal's Undectable Aura on this continuous effect magic item and hand it off to NPC/PC X  as if it weren't magical.  Oh look, why are they losing xp.  Oh no, Bob's picked up a continuos effect artifact.  He didn't realize it was an artifact and now he's two levels lower.And lastly, do you really want to spend time in the game having the PCs spend forever deciding if using magic item X is worth the xp loss!?  Is everyone going to know how much xp loss things will cost before using them.  Sorry Bob, you used the unknown artifact and it drained 5,000 xp/use.  How are you going to balance this?  Since NPCs are throw away, aren't you really penalizing the PCs more?</blockquote>

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