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<blockquote data-quote="DWARF" data-source="post: 131387" data-attributes="member: 863">EXACTLY!!!&nbsp; Now ask yourself, if you wouldn't award full Xp for that level 20 wizard..... then why should you award the maximum Xp for the druid?&nbsp; If full Xp is a druid WITH an animal companion, then a druid WITHOUT one should not give out the same Xp.IF Druid + Wolf = 300 Xp,then why do you think Druid (with no wolf) = 300 Xp?The problem isn't that they should award Xp for animal companions, the problem is that you shouldn't award full Xp for a druid without animal companions.-----------------------------------------------------------------------What if this were a summoning wizard?&nbsp; Would you give Xp for all the monsters he summons?&nbsp; If so, what about an evoker?&nbsp; Instead of having summoned creatures do his damage, he uses his spells directly.&nbsp; So if you do count summoned / animal compaions as Xp, explain this silly math to me...Level 1 Evoker = CR 1 = 300 XpTotal = 300 Xp-----------------------------------------------Level 1 Summoner = CR 1 = 300 XpLevel 1 Summon = CR 1/4 = 75 XpTotal = 375 XpSo how does a specialist mage of one type somehow become more powerful than the other?&nbsp; Answer, he doesn't.&nbsp; IF you want to award Xp for summons and animal companions, then you're going to have to give out Xp for each damaging spell the evoker casts.&nbsp; How about you break down Xp by every facet.&nbsp; Took 4 damage?&nbsp; Get 15 Xp.&nbsp; Had Charm Person cast on you?&nbsp; get 30 Xp.-OR-They could come up with a system to somewhat arbitrarily decide how difficult a smart and fully effective character at a certain level is and have the DM make the decision to lower that amount if that particular character wasn't optimum, like, if a druid hadn't gotten an animal companion?WotC went with the simpler route and made the CR system.&nbsp; With a smart enough DM, you should be able to work it that druids without animal companions, wizards without spellbooks, fighters without weapons and armor or sleeping monsters don't give you the full Xp that they normally would, since they aren't in the optimal conditions that the CR system assumes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DWARF, post: 131387, member: 863"] EXACTLY!!! Now ask yourself, if you wouldn't award full Xp for that level 20 wizard..... then why should you award the maximum Xp for the druid? If full Xp is a druid WITH an animal companion, then a druid WITHOUT one should not give out the same Xp. IF Druid + Wolf = 300 Xp, then why do you think Druid (with no wolf) = 300 Xp? The problem isn't that they should award Xp for animal companions, the problem is that you [b]shouldn't[/b] award full Xp for a druid without animal companions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- What if this were a summoning wizard? Would you give Xp for all the monsters he summons? If so, what about an evoker? Instead of having summoned creatures do his damage, he uses his spells directly. So if you do count summoned / animal compaions as Xp, explain this silly math to me... Level 1 Evoker = CR 1 = 300 Xp Total = 300 Xp ----------------------------------------------- Level 1 Summoner = CR 1 = 300 Xp Level 1 Summon = CR 1/4 = 75 Xp Total = 375 Xp So how does a specialist mage of one type somehow become more powerful than the other? Answer, he doesn't. [b]IF[/b] you want to award Xp for summons and animal companions, then you're going to have to give out Xp for each damaging spell the evoker casts. How about you break down Xp by every facet. Took 4 damage? Get 15 Xp. Had Charm Person cast on you? get 30 Xp. [b]-OR-[/b] They could come up with a system to somewhat arbitrarily decide how difficult a smart and fully effective character at a certain level is and have the DM make the decision to lower that amount if that particular character wasn't optimum, like, if a druid hadn't gotten an animal companion? WotC went with the simpler route and made the CR system. With a smart enough DM, you should be able to work it that druids without animal companions, wizards without spellbooks, fighters without weapons and armor or sleeping monsters don't give you the full Xp that they normally would, since they aren't in the optimal conditions that the CR system assumes. [/QUOTE]

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