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Message: <blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 3817682" data-attributes="member: 16285">But that is the point.A party without a rogue can get past traps, just like a party without a cleric (or other healer) can survive a dungeon. It is just easier to do when you have the "proper equipment", in this case someone with the appropriate skills/talents.There are very few low level traps that kill a party outright. If there are then it is inbalanced in the first place - sort of like encountering things of CR of +4 above the avg party level on a routine basis.Making absolutes like only a rogue can find/remove traps is a misleading paradigm - since the point is to get past the trap.At higher levels there are plenty of spells available to get around traps.2nd level cleric spell - Find Traps will help locate the trap.Spells like; Gaseous Form (Air 3, Brd 3, Sor/Wiz 3) is an extremely good one to use before the dimension door train or teleport chain of spells comes into play.</blockquote>