Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
XP Tables Across the Editions
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="JohnLynch" data-source="post: 6805143" data-attributes="member: 6749563"><p>Looking at how much XP you got for "encounters" or "monsters" across the editions, I thought it interesting to translate those XP advancement tables to 5th edition. Here's the guidelines I've used:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">AD&D (1e and 2e): roughly assumed each PC fought 3.33 "at level" monsters per level until around level 7 and 8 at which time it assumed you fought 6.66 "at-level" monsters per level.* </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3rd ed: Assumes each PC fought 3.33 at-level monsters per level from levels 1-20. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4th ed: Assumes each PC fought 10 at-level monsters per level from levels 1-20. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">5th ed: No consistent progression. It's all over the place to emphasise certain levels over others. </li> </ul><p></p><p>* This is based on research conducted by others on these forums who have examined how quickly players progressed through certain modules and compared that to 3.5e. The research found that in both AD&D and 3.5e characters typically levelled at roughly the same amount until around 8th level and then it halved for AD&D while 3e continued consistently.</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Level</td><td>AD&D XP</td><td>3rd ed XP</td><td>4th ed XP</td><td>5th ed XP</td></tr><tr><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>2</td><td>700</td><td>700</td><td>2,000</td><td>300</td></tr><tr><td>3</td><td>2,200</td><td>2,200</td><td>6,500</td><td>900</td></tr><tr><td>4</td><td>4,500</td><td>4,500</td><td>13,500</td><td>2,700</td></tr><tr><td>5</td><td>8,200</td><td>8,200</td><td>24,500</td><td>6,500</td></tr><tr><td>6</td><td>14,200</td><td>14,200</td><td>42,500</td><td>14,000</td></tr><tr><td>7</td><td>21,800</td><td>21,800</td><td>65,500</td><td>23,000</td></tr><tr><td>8</td><td>41,100</td><td>31,500</td><td>94,500</td><td>34,000</td></tr><tr><td>9</td><td>67,100</td><td>44,500</td><td>133,500</td><td>48,000</td></tr><tr><td>10</td><td>100,300</td><td>61,100</td><td>183,500</td><td>64,000</td></tr><tr><td>11</td><td>139,700</td><td>80,800</td><td>242,500</td><td>85,000</td></tr><tr><td>12</td><td>187,600</td><td>105,000</td><td>314,500</td><td>100,000</td></tr><tr><td>13</td><td>243,600</td><td>133,000</td><td>398,500</td><td>120,000</td></tr><tr><td>14</td><td>315,000</td><td>165,000</td><td>500,000</td><td>140,000</td></tr><tr><td>15</td><td>390,000</td><td>205,000</td><td>615,000</td><td>165,000</td></tr><tr><td>16</td><td>475,000</td><td>250,000</td><td>745,000</td><td>195,000</td></tr><tr><td>17</td><td>575,000</td><td>300,000</td><td>895,000</td><td>225,000</td></tr><tr><td>18</td><td>695,000</td><td>260,000</td><td>1,075,000</td><td>265,000</td></tr><tr><td>19</td><td>830,000</td><td>425,000</td><td>1,275,000</td><td>305,000</td></tr><tr><td>20</td><td>975,000</td><td>495,000</td><td>1,495,000</td><td>355,000</td></tr></table><p>So there you go. 4th ed is the slowest progression of all. I expected it to be AD&D, but I would take this surprising turn of events to be a result of stingy DM's in AD&D not handing out as much treasure as the modules did (NOTE: If you were to include non-monster XP than the AD&D XP advancement table would multiply by 4 or 5 times).</p><p></p><p>So if you don't like how quickly 5th edition advances levels, you can use one of the above alternate XP advancement tables to emulate prior editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnLynch, post: 6805143, member: 6749563"] Looking at how much XP you got for "encounters" or "monsters" across the editions, I thought it interesting to translate those XP advancement tables to 5th edition. Here's the guidelines I've used: [LIST] [*]AD&D (1e and 2e): roughly assumed each PC fought 3.33 "at level" monsters per level until around level 7 and 8 at which time it assumed you fought 6.66 "at-level" monsters per level.* [*]3rd ed: Assumes each PC fought 3.33 at-level monsters per level from levels 1-20. [*]4th ed: Assumes each PC fought 10 at-level monsters per level from levels 1-20. [*]5th ed: No consistent progression. It's all over the place to emphasise certain levels over others. [/LIST] * This is based on research conducted by others on these forums who have examined how quickly players progressed through certain modules and compared that to 3.5e. The research found that in both AD&D and 3.5e characters typically levelled at roughly the same amount until around 8th level and then it halved for AD&D while 3e continued consistently. [TABLE="width: 327"] [TR] [TD]Level[/TD] [TD]AD&D XP[/TD] [TD]3rd ed XP[/TD] [TD]4th ed XP[/TD] [TD]5th ed XP[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]1[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [TD="align: right"]0[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]2[/TD] [TD="align: right"]700[/TD] [TD="align: right"]700[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]300[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]3[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2,200[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2,200[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]900[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]4[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]4,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]13,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]2,700[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]5[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8,200[/TD] [TD="align: right"]8,200[/TD] [TD="align: right"]24,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]6,500[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]6[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14,200[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14,200[/TD] [TD="align: right"]42,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]14,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]7[/TD] [TD="align: right"]21,800[/TD] [TD="align: right"]21,800[/TD] [TD="align: right"]65,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]23,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]8[/TD] [TD="align: right"]41,100[/TD] [TD="align: right"]31,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]94,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]34,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]9[/TD] [TD="align: right"]67,100[/TD] [TD="align: right"]44,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]133,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]48,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]10[/TD] [TD="align: right"]100,300[/TD] [TD="align: right"]61,100[/TD] [TD="align: right"]183,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]64,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]11[/TD] [TD="align: right"]139,700[/TD] [TD="align: right"]80,800[/TD] [TD="align: right"]242,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]85,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]12[/TD] [TD="align: right"]187,600[/TD] [TD="align: right"]105,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]314,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]100,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]13[/TD] [TD="align: right"]243,600[/TD] [TD="align: right"]133,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]398,500[/TD] [TD="align: right"]120,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]14[/TD] [TD="align: right"]315,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]165,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]500,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]140,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]15[/TD] [TD="align: right"]390,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]205,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]615,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]165,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]16[/TD] [TD="align: right"]475,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]250,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]745,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]195,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]17[/TD] [TD="align: right"]575,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]300,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]895,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]225,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]18[/TD] [TD="align: right"]695,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]260,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1,075,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]265,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]19[/TD] [TD="align: right"]830,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]425,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1,275,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]305,000[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="align: right"]20[/TD] [TD="align: right"]975,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]495,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]1,495,000[/TD] [TD="align: right"]355,000[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So there you go. 4th ed is the slowest progression of all. I expected it to be AD&D, but I would take this surprising turn of events to be a result of stingy DM's in AD&D not handing out as much treasure as the modules did (NOTE: If you were to include non-monster XP than the AD&D XP advancement table would multiply by 4 or 5 times). So if you don't like how quickly 5th edition advances levels, you can use one of the above alternate XP advancement tables to emulate prior editions. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
XP Tables Across the Editions
Top