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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5710699" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>Neither is psionics.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=4511" target="_blank">Not that a core build helps your case.</a></p><p></p><p>Then why ask for a build in the first place?</p><p></p><p>Only in the sense that only physicists can really know how subatomic particals interact.</p><p>I agree, you don't have to be an optimizer to notice when something is broken. And there are broken things in psionics. That being said, there are not <em>more</em> broken things than in the Core, and, in fact, there are quite a few less things, which is why I find the whole notion that psionics is somehow more unbalanced than core to be ridiculous because this is one of those things that can be mathematically demonstrated to be false.</p><p></p><p>The reason I asked you to make an build was because theories are just that, theories - but it is actual application that separates the wheat from the chaff. Incidentally - and you may find this interesting - Psionics vs Arcane is a topic that has been discussed previously on WotC forums, and it turns out human wizards are more powerful than elan psions.</p><p></p><p>I suggest once again that you actually obtain a working knowledge of the system you complain about before talking about how broken it is.</p><p></p><p>The points for Elans being LA +0 I have already posted, so I'm going to go ahead and complain about those damn humans.</p><p></p><p>Humans are unbalanced. My god, have you seen their racial abilities? A bonus feat. A BONUS FEAT! You know how many feats your average race has? ZERO! That's right, NONE! And a character only gets SEVEN feats from his HD! A human gets EIGHT! THAT'S ONE MORE THAN SEVEN! That's a 114% increase in the amount of feats! You know what you can do with that feat? Take strong combos at an earlier level than would otherwise have been possible! My god, the HUMANITY! THE HUMANITY!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 5710699, member: 85158"] Neither is psionics. [URL="http://www.thetangledweb.net/forums/profiler/view_char.php?cid=4511"]Not that a core build helps your case.[/URL] Then why ask for a build in the first place? Only in the sense that only physicists can really know how subatomic particals interact. I agree, you don't have to be an optimizer to notice when something is broken. And there are broken things in psionics. That being said, there are not [I]more[/I] broken things than in the Core, and, in fact, there are quite a few less things, which is why I find the whole notion that psionics is somehow more unbalanced than core to be ridiculous because this is one of those things that can be mathematically demonstrated to be false. The reason I asked you to make an build was because theories are just that, theories - but it is actual application that separates the wheat from the chaff. Incidentally - and you may find this interesting - Psionics vs Arcane is a topic that has been discussed previously on WotC forums, and it turns out human wizards are more powerful than elan psions. I suggest once again that you actually obtain a working knowledge of the system you complain about before talking about how broken it is. The points for Elans being LA +0 I have already posted, so I'm going to go ahead and complain about those damn humans. Humans are unbalanced. My god, have you seen their racial abilities? A bonus feat. A BONUS FEAT! You know how many feats your average race has? ZERO! That's right, NONE! And a character only gets SEVEN feats from his HD! A human gets EIGHT! THAT'S ONE MORE THAN SEVEN! That's a 114% increase in the amount of feats! You know what you can do with that feat? Take strong combos at an earlier level than would otherwise have been possible! My god, the HUMANITY! THE HUMANITY! [/QUOTE]
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