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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="reiella" data-source="post: 1489319" data-attributes="member: 160"><p>For spells, I'd wager that the spells are relatively equal (some are better situationally, some are worse situationally, ie, Psionic Domination is awkward at Concentration duration, Moment of Prescience is a bit odd too). The swift/immediate powers probably need to be contrasted against the swift/immediate in MinisHB...</p><p></p><p>But the net effect for many of the powers is that the psion doesn't need to take metapsionic feats to diversify his power selection (ie, no need for Elemental Substitution).</p><p></p><p>Also ya missed Schism, which more or less lets the Psion behave as if they had the 3.0 Haste for power manifestation.</p><p></p><p>They can't "reselect powers" as other "Spontaneous Spellcasters"; nor do they have an "open spell list" as "prepared spellcasters". They do have access to Psychic Reformation lets you change skills, feats, and powers selected at previous levels [costing 50xp per level you retcon through]. It can be used on others [splitting the xp cost between target and manifester]. I'd probably line these up as 'equal' due to the greater power [and cost] of Psychic Reformation, but the necessity that it be plopped onto your spell list [wizards/sorcs can do the same if you follow the examples in the FRCS with Wish ... hardly a fair cost though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />].</p><p></p><p>Oh on my earlier point about scribe scroll, that was just to show that the Psions do end up "one feat" less (as their psicrystal was turned into a feat option, available at 1st), and they dont' get encode power stone at first.</p><p></p><p>[ Add ]</p><p>Hmm also thinking :</p><p>Additon of Psi-like abilities are probably more benefical to Psions than spell-likes are to wizards. For instance, an elan psion gets more use of their PLAs than a gnome illusionist gets out of their SLAs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reiella, post: 1489319, member: 160"] For spells, I'd wager that the spells are relatively equal (some are better situationally, some are worse situationally, ie, Psionic Domination is awkward at Concentration duration, Moment of Prescience is a bit odd too). The swift/immediate powers probably need to be contrasted against the swift/immediate in MinisHB... But the net effect for many of the powers is that the psion doesn't need to take metapsionic feats to diversify his power selection (ie, no need for Elemental Substitution). Also ya missed Schism, which more or less lets the Psion behave as if they had the 3.0 Haste for power manifestation. They can't "reselect powers" as other "Spontaneous Spellcasters"; nor do they have an "open spell list" as "prepared spellcasters". They do have access to Psychic Reformation lets you change skills, feats, and powers selected at previous levels [costing 50xp per level you retcon through]. It can be used on others [splitting the xp cost between target and manifester]. I'd probably line these up as 'equal' due to the greater power [and cost] of Psychic Reformation, but the necessity that it be plopped onto your spell list [wizards/sorcs can do the same if you follow the examples in the FRCS with Wish ... hardly a fair cost though :P]. Oh on my earlier point about scribe scroll, that was just to show that the Psions do end up "one feat" less (as their psicrystal was turned into a feat option, available at 1st), and they dont' get encode power stone at first. [ Add ] Hmm also thinking : Additon of Psi-like abilities are probably more benefical to Psions than spell-likes are to wizards. For instance, an elan psion gets more use of their PLAs than a gnome illusionist gets out of their SLAs. [/QUOTE]
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