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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="ph0rk" data-source="post: 1503122" data-attributes="member: 16266"><p>Not also; either or.</p><p></p><p>A psion cannot spit out their maximum number of high level augmented powers and still spit out many low level powers; they just don't have the pp.</p><p></p><p>A 10th level sorceror (as per the DMG NPC lists) has the following spell slots: 6/7/7/7/5/3</p><p></p><p>a 10th level psion with similar stats (swap int and cha) and gear (i.e. no stat boosts) would have 103 pp, and 21 powers known. vs 24 total spells known by the sorceror.</p><p></p><p>(before you mention some of the sorcerors spells known and slots are 0-level, all the psionic equiv. powers are 1st level, which is a detriment imho)</p><p></p><p>now, ignoring metamagic feats for the moment, that sorceror can toss 15 fireballs per day, at 10d6 per., reflex save 16 for half.</p><p></p><p>The best comperable psion power (kineticists not included) is probably energy burst; which is tricky. it has a better radius (40') but it is centered on the caster. Yes, the kineticist has energy ball, but the other 5/6th of psions out there don't. Energy bolt is a psion 3rd power, and is similar to lightningbolt.</p><p></p><p>Granted, with the flexibilty of energy types, psions can do slightly more damage per cast, or choose to do less damage but ignore hardness, etc.</p><p></p><p>-BUT- what happens after the psion and sorceror have each tossed those 10 bolts?</p><p></p><p>The sorceror can lob 7 magic missles, 7 acid arrows, cast detect magic 5 times, and cast light so that they can sit down and read their favourite book.</p><p></p><p>The psion has (unless an elan or other psionic race) 3 points remaining. they can burst 3 times and pray to whatever god they worship that they escape. (hard to do from those magic missles, each doing 5d4+5)</p><p></p><p>How is the psion overpowering the sorceror here?</p><p></p><p>(and don't even ask about how much damage each can do to a single target. 29 caster level 10 magic missles, anyone?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ph0rk, post: 1503122, member: 16266"] Not also; either or. A psion cannot spit out their maximum number of high level augmented powers and still spit out many low level powers; they just don't have the pp. A 10th level sorceror (as per the DMG NPC lists) has the following spell slots: 6/7/7/7/5/3 a 10th level psion with similar stats (swap int and cha) and gear (i.e. no stat boosts) would have 103 pp, and 21 powers known. vs 24 total spells known by the sorceror. (before you mention some of the sorcerors spells known and slots are 0-level, all the psionic equiv. powers are 1st level, which is a detriment imho) now, ignoring metamagic feats for the moment, that sorceror can toss 15 fireballs per day, at 10d6 per., reflex save 16 for half. The best comperable psion power (kineticists not included) is probably energy burst; which is tricky. it has a better radius (40') but it is centered on the caster. Yes, the kineticist has energy ball, but the other 5/6th of psions out there don't. Energy bolt is a psion 3rd power, and is similar to lightningbolt. Granted, with the flexibilty of energy types, psions can do slightly more damage per cast, or choose to do less damage but ignore hardness, etc. -BUT- what happens after the psion and sorceror have each tossed those 10 bolts? The sorceror can lob 7 magic missles, 7 acid arrows, cast detect magic 5 times, and cast light so that they can sit down and read their favourite book. The psion has (unless an elan or other psionic race) 3 points remaining. they can burst 3 times and pray to whatever god they worship that they escape. (hard to do from those magic missles, each doing 5d4+5) How is the psion overpowering the sorceror here? (and don't even ask about how much damage each can do to a single target. 29 caster level 10 magic missles, anyone?) [/QUOTE]
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