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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrem Bayle" data-source="post: 1504364" data-attributes="member: 3103">Thanee,I think the main reason people are disagreeing with you is based on the foundation of your argument. In my opinion, and in the opinion of a great many other players, sorcerers are not equel in power to wizards. In my opinion, Psions and Specialist Wizards are well balanced together. A Kineticist and Invoker are both going to dominate the battlefield. Their level of power output are about the same. Some powers are better than spells, and some spells are better than powers. They are just different. For most of this thread, you have been comparing a kineticist to a sorcerer, which is about equel to a generic wizard (or less so in my opinion). That's about like comparing the damage output of a regular wizard to an Invoker. You just can't do that.The sorcerer, on the other hand, falls short of both classes. In my opinion, the spontaneous casting isn't enough to put the sorcerer on even ground. Given the wizards ability to cast any spell in his spellbook in 15min and the free scribe scroll feat, the wizard will almost always have an answer to whatever problem you have.If you really want to see if the psion is overpowered, you should be looking at the other end of the power spectrum....the cleric. But, unfortunately the classes are so different, it'd be hard to compare them.I suggest you build a 10th level psion, wizard, and sorcerer and then take another look at all three. The XPH is FILLED with all sorts of awesome powers and feats that look really nice. But, in reality, you'll only get to sample about 10% of those things. You just don't get enough powers, PPs, and feats to make psions that are as unbalanced as you make them seem.Another problem I've noticed is your disregard for the psion's lack of 0 level powers. Those powers are very handy and most players will be willing to drop a 1st level power or two to pick up powers like Detect Psionics and Far Hand.The sorcerer has more known powers. But, some of them are 0 level and I'll admit are not always useful. In the end, I'd consider the number of known powers to be about equel between the psion and sorcerer.</blockquote>

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