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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ph0rk" data-source="post: 1504906" data-attributes="member: 16266">using a 4th level power, and then a feat, to cast a 4th level spell doesn't seem bad to me.Not familiar with other things the choker form provides, but 3 standard actions (only usable while in that form, mind you) doesn't seem that bad.who cares? sure it's nice, but not a game breaker at 7th levelMost of the sickest of supernatural abilities are owned by aberrations; check those out.Also; bear in mind that you can't become something with more hit dice than you have manifester levels; no beholder disintegrate at level 7.And, as always, unless the psion is an egoist, they have to spend -another- feat just to get this power, and then they must be level 9, not 7.Find me an ability that a wizard can't do (or a sorceror for that matter) within a level of when an egoist could do it with this feat and power, then we'll talk.No, they won't.  It isn't as if the psion has an unlimited number of feats, and on top of that they still can't have energy ball until level 9.  thats 3 levels of sorceror PWNAGE until the non-kineticist can even play the same game.  And then, once they are playing the same game, the sorceror will be able to toss out well more fully-scaled (not even counting maximized, etc) balls of flaming death than the psion.If you really want to complain about a psionic character out-nuking a Sorceror; check out the wilder.No, Evokers are the masters of evocation spells; Sorcerors pale in comparison.What? have you even read what the psionic dominate is like?  And, like most good powers, Only a Telepath can get this one without a feat.  I don't know how you can even compare them; duration concentration? for a telepath?!?  A sorceror at 9th level will be able to out dominate a telepath, period.  Days per level, people.  Can we restrict comparisons to powers -all- psions have access to w/o a feat?  It is really easy to just say you can use a feat to get a power without playing a psion and understanding what you -aren't- getting because you're getting a feat with that power.  Item creation, anyone?</blockquote>

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