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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowdweller" data-source="post: 1505557" data-attributes="member: 14563"><p>You want to start trading insults? I’ll be more than happy to oblige. Somewhere out there, though, is this thing called the “big picture.”</p><p> You mean a still and silent spell without materials. The psion pays no increase in casting cost and has no opportunity cost for even keeping such a thing prepared.</p><p></p><p> Only needs to be long enough to either finish the battle, escape the battle, or effect a cure. The psion doesn't suffer the immediate debilitation of being unable to target the enemy.</p><p></p><p> You forgot to read such wonderful feats as Psychic Containment or Psionic Meditation. If you stick around in a situation where you need to make concentration checks more often, then calling you “strategically challenged” would be a compliment.</p><p></p><p> “I’m gonna turn myself into a vampire just so I can catch that annoying psion.” Very viable strategic choice, that.</p><p></p><p> Congratulations. One’s a second level power, one’s a ninth level spell. Hmm, if we cut out chaotic creatures we’d cut out maybe half of what Gate can do. Think that’d make for a balanced second level spell? Or maybe if we limited miracle to replicating cleric spells only. That’s surely not worth a 3rd level slot!</p><p></p><p> After one manifestation you should either be a) not confused, nauseated, etc anymore or b) not in such pressing need of being free to act normally for the next few minutes.</p><p></p><p>You see, the wizard is ostensibly balanced because it has real weaknesses despite world-breaking power and immense versatility. Enter the psion, whose power is at the very least comparable. Does the psion have those same, EXPLOITABLE weaknesses? Really?</p><p></p><p>To the rest of you, my sincere apologies for that outburst. Allow me once again to reiterate my original point: Psions are immune or nearly immune to many of the classic anti-arcane tactics.</p><p></p><p><strong>And on another note:</strong>There are obviously people here with WILDLY different concepts of what 'game balance' means. It's one thing to calculate opportunity costs of dealing with/creating some offensive or defensive tactics. Or opportunity costs of choosing one class over another. It's quite a different thing entirely to reason that the power to create or destroy the world is balanced merely because you can only use it once per day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowdweller, post: 1505557, member: 14563"] You want to start trading insults? I’ll be more than happy to oblige. Somewhere out there, though, is this thing called the “big picture.” You mean a still and silent spell without materials. The psion pays no increase in casting cost and has no opportunity cost for even keeping such a thing prepared. Only needs to be long enough to either finish the battle, escape the battle, or effect a cure. The psion doesn't suffer the immediate debilitation of being unable to target the enemy. You forgot to read such wonderful feats as Psychic Containment or Psionic Meditation. If you stick around in a situation where you need to make concentration checks more often, then calling you “strategically challenged” would be a compliment. “I’m gonna turn myself into a vampire just so I can catch that annoying psion.” Very viable strategic choice, that. Congratulations. One’s a second level power, one’s a ninth level spell. Hmm, if we cut out chaotic creatures we’d cut out maybe half of what Gate can do. Think that’d make for a balanced second level spell? Or maybe if we limited miracle to replicating cleric spells only. That’s surely not worth a 3rd level slot! After one manifestation you should either be a) not confused, nauseated, etc anymore or b) not in such pressing need of being free to act normally for the next few minutes. You see, the wizard is ostensibly balanced because it has real weaknesses despite world-breaking power and immense versatility. Enter the psion, whose power is at the very least comparable. Does the psion have those same, EXPLOITABLE weaknesses? Really? To the rest of you, my sincere apologies for that outburst. Allow me once again to reiterate my original point: Psions are immune or nearly immune to many of the classic anti-arcane tactics. [B]And on another note:[/B]There are obviously people here with WILDLY different concepts of what 'game balance' means. It's one thing to calculate opportunity costs of dealing with/creating some offensive or defensive tactics. Or opportunity costs of choosing one class over another. It's quite a different thing entirely to reason that the power to create or destroy the world is balanced merely because you can only use it once per day. [/QUOTE]
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