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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1511771" data-attributes="member: 478">If that's the only difference for you... I know quite a few more... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Yeah, everyone would. More choice. But noone gets those feats.The psion has the abilities mentioned, tho.Just, that the psion needs maybe 2-3 to cover most relevant aspects and the arcanist two or three times that many (most won't even get that many, of course, and rather leave out some not so important aspects, but still) and then needs to renew them a couple levels later because they are capped.Yeah, I'd also rather have melf's acid arrow instead of energy missile... erm... not! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />And what does the psion need this feat for!? Most powers have it built-in!!!And please don't get back to the Globe of Invulnerability now (which certainly isn't a factor at most encounters), yes it doesn't help against those (that's what higher level powers are for), but it does add to the DC, which is the primary advantage of Heighten!Yep, the wizard has one more feat. The psion has much better choices for his feats, tho (all psionic feats in addition to metapsionics/-magic, which wizards are not very good at using and item creation). Guess that's pretty even in the end between psion and wizard.How about you make a list... all abilities a 10th level summoner can get and all abilities the MT psion can get... then try to compare, if you have enough paper to write all those abilities down, that is... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I take it... you really do not see the difference...Summoned monsters are good, of course. Psions can create astral constructs. Forgot?And summoning has one huge drawback (the 1 round casting time). It takes considereable amounts of resources to counteract this, if you don't want to let your spells get ruined.But ok, if you don't see the difference between the two... it's not like this would be an important item... I do not base my argumentation on single broken abilities. This particular one I just like to point out, as it is so immensely unbalanced.Just one lil side note... There once was a book called Magic of Faerûn. It had a spell called Fiendform. It allowed to assume the form of a fiend (one you can summon via Summon Monster I-VI) and use the abilities of that fiend.Now, you obviously say, that this is roughly equal (summoning and having the abilities). In this case, the abilities in question are even completely equal!Still WotC had to errata that spell, because it was horribly unbalanced!Why? You could simply summon the fiend and let him do the stuff for you... maybe there's a slight difference?ByeThanee</blockquote>

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