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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1511826" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>You obviously did not get what I meant there (and why I said "metamagic" instead of metamagic/metapsionic)... see below for explanation... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually they can (two at least)... but it costs more feats! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Ok, what I meant is simply, that psions by the nature of their powers get the abilities (or at least primary abilities) of many metamagic feats - and not just pointless ones, but rather some sorcerers often spend feats on - for free!</p><p></p><p>Here's the list again...</p><p></p><p>Eschew Materials (generic not metamagic, just for completeness)</p><p>Silent Spell</p><p>Still Spell</p><p>Heighten Spell (only DC, not the actual spell level increase (globes and such))</p><p>Energy Substitution (Energy Missile, ...)</p><p></p><p>Then Empower and Maximize, while they are a bit more powerful in comparison than an augmented power, are not that much better. It's probably not very useful for a psion to even get those feats, because of the reduced efficiency since they can just use the additional PP to augment without spending a feat.</p><p></p><p>That's all without any feats or psionic focus crap.</p><p></p><p>Isn't that way ahead?</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1511826, member: 478"] You obviously did not get what I meant there (and why I said "metamagic" instead of metamagic/metapsionic)... see below for explanation... :) Actually they can (two at least)... but it costs more feats! ;) Ok, what I meant is simply, that psions by the nature of their powers get the abilities (or at least primary abilities) of many metamagic feats - and not just pointless ones, but rather some sorcerers often spend feats on - for free! Here's the list again... Eschew Materials (generic not metamagic, just for completeness) Silent Spell Still Spell Heighten Spell (only DC, not the actual spell level increase (globes and such)) Energy Substitution (Energy Missile, ...) Then Empower and Maximize, while they are a bit more powerful in comparison than an augmented power, are not that much better. It's probably not very useful for a psion to even get those feats, because of the reduced efficiency since they can just use the additional PP to augment without spending a feat. That's all without any feats or psionic focus crap. Isn't that way ahead? Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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