Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1514044" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>What do you think about sorcerers then? Weaker than both? Equal?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yep, altho the feats you will use that on are better than what you get as a spellcaster, don't forget this. Power Penetration (most important one, IMHO) is twice as good. Psionic Endowment grants a DC increase to every discipline (hard to say, if this is worth it, given that you can buy Psionatrix - OTOH +DC is always good <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />). Quicken Power is not even available in that way to other casters (and is only +3 levels).</p><p></p><p>The biggest disadvantage of the focus is surely, that you can't do all at once. That hurts.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Noone with a sane mind would!</p><p>It was just a silly example to counter another silly example, after all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, that's a given. Altho, they don't need to augment to the max to keep up, maybe like 60-80% (rough estimate) on average (that's the one thing, I am not exactly sure how it works out without actual playtesting - as I stated a few times by now). And some powers scale the same as spells (no augmentation necessary)! A clever psion player will be able to find a good balance here and manifest at least about as many spells as a wizard, I'm quite sure.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't have many combats per day, or have you? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>In our games, spellcasters often run out of spells (at least the ones that do something impressive, like the three highest available spell levels), or at least have to save some for later and not just start blasting away.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1514044, member: 478"] What do you think about sorcerers then? Weaker than both? Equal? Yep, altho the feats you will use that on are better than what you get as a spellcaster, don't forget this. Power Penetration (most important one, IMHO) is twice as good. Psionic Endowment grants a DC increase to every discipline (hard to say, if this is worth it, given that you can buy Psionatrix - OTOH +DC is always good :)). Quicken Power is not even available in that way to other casters (and is only +3 levels). The biggest disadvantage of the focus is surely, that you can't do all at once. That hurts. Noone with a sane mind would! It was just a silly example to counter another silly example, after all. ;) Yeah, that's a given. Altho, they don't need to augment to the max to keep up, maybe like 60-80% (rough estimate) on average (that's the one thing, I am not exactly sure how it works out without actual playtesting - as I stated a few times by now). And some powers scale the same as spells (no augmentation necessary)! A clever psion player will be able to find a good balance here and manifest at least about as many spells as a wizard, I'm quite sure. You don't have many combats per day, or have you? ;) In our games, spellcasters often run out of spells (at least the ones that do something impressive, like the three highest available spell levels), or at least have to save some for later and not just start blasting away. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
Top