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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 1515628" data-attributes="member: 743"><p>AoOs are not caused because you see someone do something. They are caused by a lapse in concentration. Undetectable manifestations cause AoOs, but it is not because the guy says "wow, he just energy cone'd me" its because your concentration slips and allows one of the many thrusts and slashes past your gaurd.</p><p></p><p>Grapplng and held doe still require concentration, but the psion can manifest any power in that situation The other spellcasters must use verbal only spells, and must use silent spells once they are pined. This is indeed a huge benefit to a psion. Of course you still won't want to be grappled, but if you are you've got a lot ore options available to you.</p><p></p><p>A Choker's quicknes ability allow the psion something a wizard annot get without shapechange: 3.0 haste. A beholder's antimagic ray will turn the party fighters into gods when facing sdown spellcasters. </p><p></p><p>1- A character wanting Psionic Meditation will already have Wis 13. </p><p>2- All psions will have high int, thus it is a non-factor. </p><p>3- DC is not a factor in the abilities I cited above, nor in many other abilities. This is a non-factor.</p><p>4- Egoists get Metamosphosis without a feat, nd metamorphosis aloneis worthy of a feat. This is a non-factor.</p><p>5- You mean I have to spend a feat to create an antimagic cone? Or get 3.0 haste? Sounds like a great trade to me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>The most powerful effects to gain from this are not offensive in nature. A Psion will already have plenty of offense without spending a feat on getting more.</p><p></p><p>The spell gave access to all of the creature's spell-like abilities, including teleport without error at will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 1515628, member: 743"] AoOs are not caused because you see someone do something. They are caused by a lapse in concentration. Undetectable manifestations cause AoOs, but it is not because the guy says "wow, he just energy cone'd me" its because your concentration slips and allows one of the many thrusts and slashes past your gaurd. Grapplng and held doe still require concentration, but the psion can manifest any power in that situation The other spellcasters must use verbal only spells, and must use silent spells once they are pined. This is indeed a huge benefit to a psion. Of course you still won't want to be grappled, but if you are you've got a lot ore options available to you. A Choker's quicknes ability allow the psion something a wizard annot get without shapechange: 3.0 haste. A beholder's antimagic ray will turn the party fighters into gods when facing sdown spellcasters. 1- A character wanting Psionic Meditation will already have Wis 13. 2- All psions will have high int, thus it is a non-factor. 3- DC is not a factor in the abilities I cited above, nor in many other abilities. This is a non-factor. 4- Egoists get Metamosphosis without a feat, nd metamorphosis aloneis worthy of a feat. This is a non-factor. 5- You mean I have to spend a feat to create an antimagic cone? Or get 3.0 haste? Sounds like a great trade to me. :) The most powerful effects to gain from this are not offensive in nature. A Psion will already have plenty of offense without spending a feat on getting more. The spell gave access to all of the creature's spell-like abilities, including teleport without error at will. [/QUOTE]
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