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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 1515753" data-attributes="member: 308"><p>Yes, but the power itself isn't invisible. A crystal shard still travels from the psion to the target, the energy missile still comes from the psion. There are a few powers whose manifestation is directly tied to the power itself, and those would be masked by making the concentration check, like leechfield, for example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Three times per day at the cost of a feat? Ok, doesn't seem terribly overpowerful even at the earliest available at ninth level. It's not weak by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't find it overpowering.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1- But a high stat here, means a weaker stat somewhere else, like Con, Dex or Cha.</p><p>2- See #1.</p><p>3- The DC is important for a lot of abilities. If the psion wants an 'offensive' usage he once again has to bump another stat. See #1.</p><p>4- As a result the Egoist gives up access to a lot of good powers, some of which will require a feat to learn. Vice-versa for Shapers who want metamorphasis transfer.</p><p>5- Yes, as part of a sort of 'feat chain.' It takes a stack of abilities to get there. One or more feats, a relatively high Wis, probably a relatively high Cha. </p><p></p><p>Unlike a wizard, being an invisible, flying, death-from-above machine requires a lot more expenditure of character resources. That's why I say that building a character to exploit Metamorphasis Transfer highlights some of the downside of this tactic. </p><p></p><p></p><p>That alone might've been enough to nerf it since summoned monsters in 3.5 can't use teleportational abilities.</p><p></p><p>Greg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zhure, post: 1515753, member: 308"] Yes, but the power itself isn't invisible. A crystal shard still travels from the psion to the target, the energy missile still comes from the psion. There are a few powers whose manifestation is directly tied to the power itself, and those would be masked by making the concentration check, like leechfield, for example. Three times per day at the cost of a feat? Ok, doesn't seem terribly overpowerful even at the earliest available at ninth level. It's not weak by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't find it overpowering. 1- But a high stat here, means a weaker stat somewhere else, like Con, Dex or Cha. 2- See #1. 3- The DC is important for a lot of abilities. If the psion wants an 'offensive' usage he once again has to bump another stat. See #1. 4- As a result the Egoist gives up access to a lot of good powers, some of which will require a feat to learn. Vice-versa for Shapers who want metamorphasis transfer. 5- Yes, as part of a sort of 'feat chain.' It takes a stack of abilities to get there. One or more feats, a relatively high Wis, probably a relatively high Cha. Unlike a wizard, being an invisible, flying, death-from-above machine requires a lot more expenditure of character resources. That's why I say that building a character to exploit Metamorphasis Transfer highlights some of the downside of this tactic. That alone might've been enough to nerf it since summoned monsters in 3.5 can't use teleportational abilities. Greg [/QUOTE]
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