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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 1515789" data-attributes="member: 743"><p>The Egoist gives up no mre than any other race.</p><p> </p><p>You may think that having an antimagic cone 3/day at 10th level is not nbalanced, but try allowing it into a campaign and then having a BBEG be a cleric, a psion, or a wizard. Three rounds without magic will kill any spellcaster, esecially when an entire party is laying into him</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>1- Yep. But the psion is likely to already want that stat, meaning it is a nonissue. If the character in question is a Psychic Warrior, he wil already have #1, and be able to disregard #2.</p><p>2- Please. All psions will have an int of at least 15 by the time they can manifest 10th level powers. If you are a Psychic Warrior instead, you get to use wisdom.</p><p>3- As I said, DC is immaterial. Psions have enough offense without metmaorphic transfer. This feat is not an offensive feat (except in the way that antimagic cones and quickness are offensive). DCs are completely irelevant when discussing the balance of this feat.</p><p>4- Every single psion subclass gies up access to specific powers, and regains access to them via Expanded Knowldge (takable with class bonus feats).</p><p>5- What feat chain? What "high abilities"? You need a wisdom of 13+, that you probably would have had anyway. You need an intelligence of 15+, which you are gauranteed to have had anyway. Charisma is immaterial, I believe you will find that there are few (if any) supernatural abilities with DCs anywhere near as powerful as what a psion can do when his level equals the creature's hit dice.</p><p> </p><p>If you want to use the feat for offense, just be a wilder. You'll even get to wild surge to take the form of higher hit dice creatures, gaining access to better and more diversified abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James McMurray, post: 1515789, member: 743"] The Egoist gives up no mre than any other race. You may think that having an antimagic cone 3/day at 10th level is not nbalanced, but try allowing it into a campaign and then having a BBEG be a cleric, a psion, or a wizard. Three rounds without magic will kill any spellcaster, esecially when an entire party is laying into him 1- Yep. But the psion is likely to already want that stat, meaning it is a nonissue. If the character in question is a Psychic Warrior, he wil already have #1, and be able to disregard #2. 2- Please. All psions will have an int of at least 15 by the time they can manifest 10th level powers. If you are a Psychic Warrior instead, you get to use wisdom. 3- As I said, DC is immaterial. Psions have enough offense without metmaorphic transfer. This feat is not an offensive feat (except in the way that antimagic cones and quickness are offensive). DCs are completely irelevant when discussing the balance of this feat. 4- Every single psion subclass gies up access to specific powers, and regains access to them via Expanded Knowldge (takable with class bonus feats). 5- What feat chain? What "high abilities"? You need a wisdom of 13+, that you probably would have had anyway. You need an intelligence of 15+, which you are gauranteed to have had anyway. Charisma is immaterial, I believe you will find that there are few (if any) supernatural abilities with DCs anywhere near as powerful as what a psion can do when his level equals the creature's hit dice. If you want to use the feat for offense, just be a wilder. You'll even get to wild surge to take the form of higher hit dice creatures, gaining access to better and more diversified abilities. [/QUOTE]
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