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[XPH] Psion versus Wizard/Sorcerer
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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1516662" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Me !? You compared it with four feats (which I explained noone gets, so the comparison is pointless), not me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Erm, you have noticed, that the power can affect five targets at once?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By closing his eyes and becoming incapable to deal with the psion? Yeah, right! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>As I said... sound tactic (that wasn't really meant seriously, yaknow <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Only the ones that do not plan to pick up that feat... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And I'm quite certain, that Str is the number one dump stat for psions, as it is for arcane spellcasters.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah. But that seems reasonable enough to me, not really hard to achieve.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That seems like a pretty good DC to me, given the fact how low save DCs are in 3.5.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, it's just as polymorph but allows you to change into any evil outsider from the summon monster I - V (was VI) list (3.0) for 1min/lvl, and gain all abilities (extraordinary, spell-like, supernatural).</p><p></p><p>I was just pointing out, that obviously WotC saw the need to nerf this spell, since having the abilities yourself is just plain better than having something summoned, which does, since the spell does grant you the same abilities that summon monster VI would grant (indirectly) as well.</p><p></p><p>It was just an example to clarify my point, that is exactly that... having an ability is better than having someone have the ability.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1516662, member: 478"] Me !? You compared it with four feats (which I explained noone gets, so the comparison is pointless), not me. Erm, you have noticed, that the power can affect five targets at once? By closing his eyes and becoming incapable to deal with the psion? Yeah, right! :D As I said... sound tactic (that wasn't really meant seriously, yaknow ;)). Only the ones that do not plan to pick up that feat... ;) And I'm quite certain, that Str is the number one dump stat for psions, as it is for arcane spellcasters. Yeah. But that seems reasonable enough to me, not really hard to achieve. That seems like a pretty good DC to me, given the fact how low save DCs are in 3.5. Well, it's just as polymorph but allows you to change into any evil outsider from the summon monster I - V (was VI) list (3.0) for 1min/lvl, and gain all abilities (extraordinary, spell-like, supernatural). I was just pointing out, that obviously WotC saw the need to nerf this spell, since having the abilities yourself is just plain better than having something summoned, which does, since the spell does grant you the same abilities that summon monster VI would grant (indirectly) as well. It was just an example to clarify my point, that is exactly that... having an ability is better than having someone have the ability. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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