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[XPH]: Your take on Energy Missile augmentation
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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1596971" data-attributes="member: 5777"><p>20 isnt 'massive'? I would have to say that an order of magnitude is indeed massive <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>::sighs:: <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> This is very misleading thanee. It isnt useful in the way you say, especially with the way other parts of the game work.</p><p></p><p>Sure, it could be the way you say, or it could be simply that it is simply comparing it to one and the rest of the comparison is useless.</p><p></p><p>If you would like to do it this way then shadowevocation is an unbounded number of spells. Now, when comparing some number to infinity I know which one 'wins'.</p><p></p><p>The augmentation is gained because of lack of scaling. So, if you want to say that energy ball is 24 spells then I will say that fireball itself (which scales from 5d6 to 10d6) is as many spells and more. As I can use it in a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level slot and I can choose to have it be at 5d6, 6d6, 7d6, 8d6, 9d6 and 10d6. Now I have 42 different spells!</p><p></p><p>You will probably say this comparison isnt very valid, that is fine. It is just as valid as yours though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, not exactly, each part is much weaker in power, breadth, and options.</p><p></p><p>Since each part is much more versitile, and has many more abilities, having the whole thing rolled into one doesnt seem overpowered at all.</p><p></p><p>The single astral construct power is much more versitile in that it can be augmented, any given summon monster of the same level it is cast at is just much more potent in uses.</p><p></p><p>Interesting how there are tradeoffs all over yes?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1596971, member: 5777"] 20 isnt 'massive'? I would have to say that an order of magnitude is indeed massive ;) ::sighs:: :( This is very misleading thanee. It isnt useful in the way you say, especially with the way other parts of the game work. Sure, it could be the way you say, or it could be simply that it is simply comparing it to one and the rest of the comparison is useless. If you would like to do it this way then shadowevocation is an unbounded number of spells. Now, when comparing some number to infinity I know which one 'wins'. The augmentation is gained because of lack of scaling. So, if you want to say that energy ball is 24 spells then I will say that fireball itself (which scales from 5d6 to 10d6) is as many spells and more. As I can use it in a 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th level slot and I can choose to have it be at 5d6, 6d6, 7d6, 8d6, 9d6 and 10d6. Now I have 42 different spells! You will probably say this comparison isnt very valid, that is fine. It is just as valid as yours though. No, not exactly, each part is much weaker in power, breadth, and options. Since each part is much more versitile, and has many more abilities, having the whole thing rolled into one doesnt seem overpowered at all. The single astral construct power is much more versitile in that it can be augmented, any given summon monster of the same level it is cast at is just much more potent in uses. Interesting how there are tradeoffs all over yes? [/QUOTE]
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