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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JLXC" data-source="post: 217630" data-attributes="member: 2663">With all the cries for doing away with alignment, and all the cries of "Good does not equal Dumb" I have wondered for a while if modern players are so awash in the morass of reality, so stuck in "It's all Shades of Gray", that they cannot fathom Goodness?Goodness USED to be different in movies and books and in peoples minds.  Here are some examples which I may or may not agree with:It used to be Good to fight opponents without always killing them.Now you must kill them because they'll probably come back and get you!It used to be Good to TRY to hold back some enemies while innocents escape.Now that is DUMB PALADIN thinking, and no sensible good person would throw away their life like that!  What a waste!  How moronic!It used to be Good to do the right thing, even when it was bad for you.Now you should "Bend" the rules when needed because it's more important to WIN, than to do the right thing.  If doing the Right thing stands in the way of your Good goal, then just ignore it because the Greater Good will be better served.It used to be Good to do something even when there was no profit in it.Now you should be Good, AND make a great profit, of course giving a little away to charity so you can still be "Good".It used to be Good to show mercy.Now, mercy is for the weak.It used to be Good to risk your neck to help people, even when it is likely, but not for sure, that you will die.  Now it is dumb to take too many risks and there are some that you just "Cannot" save. I'm not sure if ANY of the examples I used about are valid.  I am just curious about what other people feel.  I could spend time to think of better examples, ok, don't let the above examples put your thinking in a box all right?  What do you think?  Is Good about self sacrifice?  Is Good about "how you think" not "what you do?"  What do you think?I personally feel people in the real world are so used to daily Evil that they think of good as dumb, and just are amazed when people do something good.  Sure THEY say they are good, but they don't ever ACT on it.  Just because you don't kick puppies does not make you good.Examples:D&D - A Group of Paladins and Clerics see a volcano erupting, a bunch of people they don't know are trapped in there, and rush in knowing that it could explode and kill them any second.  They all die when the volcano does blow up.  Are they dumb?  Should they have "thought" of something else while waiting for it to go off then not responsible at all when it did because they were "Thinking" and there was "Nothing" they could do?  Would your "Good" players have rushed in there?  If you made it clear that there was no way to survive the blast if it went off would they go?  Do you even HAVE Good aligned characters anymore in your Parties?...................Now replace Paladins and Clerics with Police Men and Firemen.  Replace Volcano with World Trade Center on 9/11. There are Heroes... and then there are HEROES.  Do we even understand selfless good anymore?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

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