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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Theo R Cwithin" data-source="post: 4985316" data-attributes="member: 75712">@Celebrim: Thanks for the insight: It certainly sounds like your method equates to mine in many cases, if not most cases a PC is likely to encounter!One thing I'd point out is that with the tackle/grasp distinction, it's not necessary to deconstruct then reconstruct the grapple bonus in a published statblock.  Rather it's just a simple subtraction: just decide on a grapple mode:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> if ( "tackle" ), then use (RAW grapple bonus)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> if ( "grasp" ), then use (RAW grapple bonus -8)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">optionally, a few monsters that "grasp" use (RAW grapple bonus -4) instead</li> </ul>The only hard part is deciding which mode to use, and usually that's pretty obvious.  Generally,<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">if ( opponent is same size or bigger ) then ("tackle")</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">if ( opponent is smaller ) then ( "grasp" )</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">certain monsters prefer one or the other, regardless of opponent size</li> </ul>I guess I just like differentiating things out a bit.  This method serves to reduce the effective strength of one-appendage "graspers", without penalizing the whole-body "tacklers".  Thus it's easier to break free of an assassin vine's tendril than from a lion's bite/claw/claw - even though their size and strength bonuses are the same. In all fairness, I should note the other change I buried in the special ability text in the OP:  creatures with Improved Grasp only take the -8 penalty to hold an opponent, whereas creatures with Improved Tackle take the full -20 as per the RAW.</blockquote>

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