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<blockquote data-quote="KDLadage" data-source="post: 2077745" data-attributes="member: 88"><p>The more I think about this, the more I am convinced that the "open, build-your-own-path" structure is the way to go. Especially with the "at Tier X, gain X character points" structure so that the initial couple of tiers are only granting you 1 or 2 powers each... with either several powers or one very potent power being gained at the uper levels.</p><p></p><p>I would say that You have Tiers and Steps.</p><p></p><p>A Tier is an advancement level.</p><p></p><p>A Step is progress towards an advancement level.</p><p></p><p>A Tier requires that you gain a number of steps equal to the tier +1 to advance. When you advance in tiers, you are reset to 0 steps. IE:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Tier 0, Step 0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 1, Step +0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 1, Step +1</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 2, Step +0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 2, Step +1</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 2, Step +2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +1</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 victory = Tier 4, Step +0</li> </ul><p>...and so on, much as it is now.</p><p></p><p>However, every single tier has 5 negative Steps that can be delved into. If you ever manage to reach reach Step -6, you drop 1 tier and are reset to Step 0. IE:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Tier 5, Step +0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -1</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -4</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 4, Step +0</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -1</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -2</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -3</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -4</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +1 loss = Tier 3, Step +0</li> </ul><p>...and so on, much as it is now...</p><p></p><p>except -- when you lose a tier, you lose all of the abilities you granted yourself at that tier -- they remain with your character (unable to be used) and are re-activated if you happen to regain your status once again.</p><p></p><p>I would add a couple of "passive" abilities that can be taken, however, to make more "stable" characters:</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Name:</strong> Expert</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Prerequisites:</strong> Tier 3 or higher</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Cost:</strong> 2 character points</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Type:</strong> Passive</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Description:</strong> You have mastered the basic techniques of your particular style of combat. You cannot be reduced below the level of a Tier 3 fighter. If you are a tier 3 fighter, and accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step, then you simply continue to accumulate negative steps without being reduced in tier.</span></p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Name:</strong> Master</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Prerequisites:</strong> Tier 5 or higher, Expert</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Cost:</strong> 2 character points</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Type:</strong> Passive</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Description:</strong> You have mastered the basic techniques of your particular style of combat. You cannot be reduced below the level of a Tier 5 fighter. If you are a tier 5 fighter, and accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step, then you simply continue to accumulate negative steps without being reduced in tier.</span></p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Name:</strong> Grand Master</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Prerequisites:</strong> Tier 7 or higher, Master</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Cost:</strong> 2 character points</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Type:</strong> Passive</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Description:</strong> You are the master of your craft. You cannot be reduced below the level of a Tier 7 fighter. If you are a tier 7 fighter, and accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step, then you simply continue to accumulate negative steps without being reduced in tier.</span></p><p></p><p>and finally...</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"></span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Name:</strong> Secret Knowledge</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Prerequisites:</strong> Tier 3 or higher, Expert</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Cost:</strong> 1 character point</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Type:</strong> Passive</span></p><p><span style="color: Yellow"><strong>Description:</strong> You are a quick study and are able to retain knowledge well. If you would accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step and would <u>not</u> be reduced in tier through this aquisition (such as through the effects of the abilties Expert, Master, or Grand Master), then you do not gain that negative step, and instead remain at Step -5.</span></p><p></p><p>I am telling you... I really think that this could work and work well... without becoming unballanced in any way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KDLadage, post: 2077745, member: 88"] The more I think about this, the more I am convinced that the "open, build-your-own-path" structure is the way to go. Especially with the "at Tier X, gain X character points" structure so that the initial couple of tiers are only granting you 1 or 2 powers each... with either several powers or one very potent power being gained at the uper levels. I would say that You have Tiers and Steps. A Tier is an advancement level. A Step is progress towards an advancement level. A Tier requires that you gain a number of steps equal to the tier +1 to advance. When you advance in tiers, you are reset to 0 steps. IE: [list] [*] Tier 0, Step 0 [*] +1 victory = Tier 1, Step +0 [*] +1 victory = Tier 1, Step +1 [*] +1 victory = Tier 2, Step +0 [*] +1 victory = Tier 2, Step +1 [*] +1 victory = Tier 2, Step +2 [*] +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +0 [*] +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +1 [*] +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +2 [*] +1 victory = Tier 3, Step +3 [*] +1 victory = Tier 4, Step +0[/list] ...and so on, much as it is now. However, every single tier has 5 negative Steps that can be delved into. If you ever manage to reach reach Step -6, you drop 1 tier and are reset to Step 0. IE: [list] [*] Tier 5, Step +0 [*] +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -1 [*] +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -2 [*] +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -3 [*] +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -4 [*] +1 loss = Tier 5, Step -5 [*] +1 loss = Tier 4, Step +0 [*] +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -1 [*] +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -2 [*] +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -3 [*] +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -4 [*] +1 loss = Tier 4, Step -5 [*] +1 loss = Tier 3, Step +0[/list] ...and so on, much as it is now... except -- when you lose a tier, you lose all of the abilities you granted yourself at that tier -- they remain with your character (unable to be used) and are re-activated if you happen to regain your status once again. I would add a couple of "passive" abilities that can be taken, however, to make more "stable" characters: [COLOR=Yellow] [b]Name:[/b] Expert [b]Prerequisites:[/b] Tier 3 or higher [b]Cost:[/b] 2 character points [b]Type:[/b] Passive [b]Description:[/b] You have mastered the basic techniques of your particular style of combat. You cannot be reduced below the level of a Tier 3 fighter. If you are a tier 3 fighter, and accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step, then you simply continue to accumulate negative steps without being reduced in tier.[/COLOR] and [COLOR=Yellow] [b]Name:[/b] Master [b]Prerequisites:[/b] Tier 5 or higher, Expert [b]Cost:[/b] 2 character points [b]Type:[/b] Passive [b]Description:[/b] You have mastered the basic techniques of your particular style of combat. You cannot be reduced below the level of a Tier 5 fighter. If you are a tier 5 fighter, and accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step, then you simply continue to accumulate negative steps without being reduced in tier.[/COLOR] and [COLOR=Yellow] [b]Name:[/b] Grand Master [b]Prerequisites:[/b] Tier 7 or higher, Master [b]Cost:[/b] 2 character points [b]Type:[/b] Passive [b]Description:[/b] You are the master of your craft. You cannot be reduced below the level of a Tier 7 fighter. If you are a tier 7 fighter, and accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step, then you simply continue to accumulate negative steps without being reduced in tier.[/COLOR] and finally... [COLOR=Yellow] [b]Name:[/b] Secret Knowledge [b]Prerequisites:[/b] Tier 3 or higher, Expert [b]Cost:[/b] 1 character point [b]Type:[/b] Passive [b]Description:[/b] You are a quick study and are able to retain knowledge well. If you would accumulate a 6th (or more) negative step and would [u]not[/u] be reduced in tier through this aquisition (such as through the effects of the abilties Expert, Master, or Grand Master), then you do not gain that negative step, and instead remain at Step -5.[/COLOR] I am telling you... I really think that this could work and work well... without becoming unballanced in any way. [/QUOTE]
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