Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Ye olde classic unarmed strike/natural weapon question.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3214750" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>My question is about a hasted Ftr6/Mnk1 with Rapid Shot and Improved Two-Weapon Fighting.</p><p></p><p>He is wielding a longsword and dagger, and he attacks with a Flurry of Blows.</p><p></p><p>His BAB is +6.</p><p></p><p>The Flurry of Blows entry in the Monk class table reads "-2/-2" for a Mnk1.</p><p></p><p>He can, in theory, make a total of 7 attacks in a round, as long as none of them are disallowed, all with a -2 penalty for Flurry of Blows, a -2 penalty for TWF, and a -2 penalty for Rapid Shot:</p><p></p><p>2 iterative attacks for +6 BAB. (+6a / +1a)</p><p>2 off-hand attacks for ITWF. (+6b / +1b)</p><p>1 extra attack for Flurry of Blows. (+6c)</p><p>1 extra attack for Haste. (+6d)</p><p>1 extra ranged attack for Rapid Shot. (+6e)</p><p></p><p>Neither a longsword nor a dagger is a special monk weapon.</p><p></p><p>Which of the attacks are required to be made with unarmed strikes or special monk weapons?</p><p></p><p>+6c, certainly - it is undeniably part of the Flurry of Blows.</p><p></p><p>+6a, probably; either that or +1a maps to the 'other' -2 attack in the Monk table entry. I suspect it's the +6a.</p><p></p><p>+1a is an attack that is gained solely due to the BAB he possesses from his fighter levels. It has no connection to the Monk class; is this attack made 'when using Flurry of Blows', or can it be made with the longsword?</p><p></p><p>The extra attack from Haste bears no relation to Monk levels. Can it be made with the longsword?</p><p></p><p>The off-hand attacks have no connection to Monk levels. Can he use his dagger? Or are these attacks made 'when using Flurry of Blows', and thus required to be made with an unarmed strike or special monk weapon? If so, do we use the PHB rule (there is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed), or do we use the FAQ rule (a monk cannot make an off-hand attack with an unarmed strike, unless he treats the unarmed strike as an off-hand attack (!?))?</p><p></p><p>Can he use the extra ranged attack from Rapid Shot to throw his dagger? Or is this attack made 'when using Flurry of Blows', limiting him essentially to shuriken or sai?</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3214750, member: 1656"] My question is about a hasted Ftr6/Mnk1 with Rapid Shot and Improved Two-Weapon Fighting. He is wielding a longsword and dagger, and he attacks with a Flurry of Blows. His BAB is +6. The Flurry of Blows entry in the Monk class table reads "-2/-2" for a Mnk1. He can, in theory, make a total of 7 attacks in a round, as long as none of them are disallowed, all with a -2 penalty for Flurry of Blows, a -2 penalty for TWF, and a -2 penalty for Rapid Shot: 2 iterative attacks for +6 BAB. (+6a / +1a) 2 off-hand attacks for ITWF. (+6b / +1b) 1 extra attack for Flurry of Blows. (+6c) 1 extra attack for Haste. (+6d) 1 extra ranged attack for Rapid Shot. (+6e) Neither a longsword nor a dagger is a special monk weapon. Which of the attacks are required to be made with unarmed strikes or special monk weapons? +6c, certainly - it is undeniably part of the Flurry of Blows. +6a, probably; either that or +1a maps to the 'other' -2 attack in the Monk table entry. I suspect it's the +6a. +1a is an attack that is gained solely due to the BAB he possesses from his fighter levels. It has no connection to the Monk class; is this attack made 'when using Flurry of Blows', or can it be made with the longsword? The extra attack from Haste bears no relation to Monk levels. Can it be made with the longsword? The off-hand attacks have no connection to Monk levels. Can he use his dagger? Or are these attacks made 'when using Flurry of Blows', and thus required to be made with an unarmed strike or special monk weapon? If so, do we use the PHB rule (there is no such thing as an off-hand attack for a monk striking unarmed), or do we use the FAQ rule (a monk cannot make an off-hand attack with an unarmed strike, unless he treats the unarmed strike as an off-hand attack (!?))? Can he use the extra ranged attack from Rapid Shot to throw his dagger? Or is this attack made 'when using Flurry of Blows', limiting him essentially to shuriken or sai? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Ye olde classic unarmed strike/natural weapon question.
Top