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<blockquote data-quote="Tharen the Damned" data-source="post: 2874386" data-attributes="member: 17091">Lets see. Great Red Wyrm 24d10 (average of 132), DC 40 vs. Yeenoghu Reflex 22 Fire Resistance 10. That makes an overall average breath dmage to Y. of 110 ((132 -10) x 0,9)It gets even better with a full attack: BaB + 40 + 17str. -10 Power attack = 47 vs. AC 45 of Y. that makes an average of 228hp per round - if the wyrm could align his &quot;weapons&quot;. Otherwise it would be 114 hp with DR.If ole Red as a 19th Lvl. Sorcerer has Dimensional Anchor and breaks Y. Spell Resistance of 31 poor Y. can´t even teleport away and is minced Meat in three rounds of Combat.And I didn´t even take into account Feats from Draconomicon (clinging Breath anyone) or the Half Fiend Template.Just had a look at Jubilex. With him it gets even better. old Red just Swoops, has a brath and is away. Reflex 14 and Fire DR 10 and hp 364 is an average 132hp Breath Damage.Now I wonder why Dragons do not rule the Abyss...Agreed there are not many great old wyrms out there, but there are infinite layers of the abyss with some layers being infinite themselves. There is very good chance for some big old baddies out there..</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tharen the Damned, post: 2874386, member: 17091"] Lets see. Great Red Wyrm 24d10 (average of 132), DC 40 vs. Yeenoghu Reflex 22 Fire Resistance 10. That makes an overall average breath dmage to Y. of 110 ((132 -10) x 0,9) It gets even better with a full attack: BaB + 40 + 17str. -10 Power attack = 47 vs. AC 45 of Y. that makes an average of 228hp per round - if the wyrm could align his "weapons". Otherwise it would be 114 hp with DR. If ole Red as a 19th Lvl. Sorcerer has Dimensional Anchor and breaks Y. Spell Resistance of 31 poor Y. can´t even teleport away and is minced Meat in three rounds of Combat. And I didn´t even take into account Feats from Draconomicon (clinging Breath anyone) or the Half Fiend Template. Just had a look at Jubilex. With him it gets even better. old Red just Swoops, has a brath and is away. Reflex 14 and Fire DR 10 and hp 364 is an average 132hp Breath Damage. Now I wonder why Dragons do not rule the Abyss... Agreed there are not many great old wyrms out there, but there are infinite layers of the abyss with some layers being infinite themselves. There is very good chance for some big old baddies out there.. [/QUOTE]

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