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<blockquote data-quote="Ripzerai" data-source="post: 2879950" data-attributes="member: 38324"><p>Everything. Political acumen is as rigidly defined by the rules as intelligence or wisdom is. Exaggerating a character's political ability beyond what its stats allow isn't any different from similarly exaggerating its combat prowess.</p><p></p><p>Diplomacy defines politics as it's normally understood - making and maintaining alliances. Intimidate is a poor political tool, as it makes things <em>worse</em> once the intimidated soul is out of your presence. The intimidated demon, now nursing a <em>grudge</em>, then uses its superior diplomacy skill to get allies against you.</p><p></p><p>If you had used diplomacy instead, you might have an ally. As it is, you've created a passive-aggressive enemy (unfriendly or hostile, by default).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And someone with a higher Diplomacy score is probably going to have more allies (if not henchmen, which are derived directly from the Leadership feat) - and can quite possibly get a superior tactical position by dealing with others rather than having to blunder through an array of foes.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>His circumstances are <em>defined</em> by his dice rolls. Unless you're suggesting that Yeenoghu became the ruler of two layers of the Abyss by bizarre coincidence (all his rivals had heart attacks on the same day) instead of any merit of his own.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ripzerai, post: 2879950, member: 38324"] Everything. Political acumen is as rigidly defined by the rules as intelligence or wisdom is. Exaggerating a character's political ability beyond what its stats allow isn't any different from similarly exaggerating its combat prowess. Diplomacy defines politics as it's normally understood - making and maintaining alliances. Intimidate is a poor political tool, as it makes things [i]worse[/i] once the intimidated soul is out of your presence. The intimidated demon, now nursing a [i]grudge[/i], then uses its superior diplomacy skill to get allies against you. If you had used diplomacy instead, you might have an ally. As it is, you've created a passive-aggressive enemy (unfriendly or hostile, by default). And someone with a higher Diplomacy score is probably going to have more allies (if not henchmen, which are derived directly from the Leadership feat) - and can quite possibly get a superior tactical position by dealing with others rather than having to blunder through an array of foes. His circumstances are [i]defined[/i] by his dice rolls. Unless you're suggesting that Yeenoghu became the ruler of two layers of the Abyss by bizarre coincidence (all his rivals had heart attacks on the same day) instead of any merit of his own. [/QUOTE]
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