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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 920431" data-attributes="member: 70"><p><strong>Ah! Clarity.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, this clears things up. If I understand you, the problem isn't that OA presents a generic toolkit -- it's that it doesn't "wrap up" the Asian continent and create a single "cohesive campaign world". That's certainly something we can agree it doesn't do.</p><p></p><p>Personally, that's exactly why I dislike Nyambe. It takes a large, diverse continent and, IMO, mushes it together into one big stew. The flavor text is intermingled with the mechanics, meaning that much more work for me to use Nyambe rules in my own campaign setting, and there's very little (to my eye) effort to link game mechanics to real world regions...useful if I'm running a region-specific campaign in some pseudo-historical Africa. OA, at least, makes an effort in this direction.</p><p></p><p>But I want to touch on feats, since you specifically brought them up. In OA, 5 feats mentioned Rokugan-specific material in the effects description. Two of these mentions were "if you belong to (Rokugan) prestige class X, you get a +1 to this ability", one referred to kuni crystal, one referred to the Shadowlands, and one referred to maho. Every other "Rokugan" feat was setting-neutral. Many, if not most, were +2/+2 feats, working on exactly the same principle as the Alertness feat from the PH.</p><p></p><p>I also want to make it clear, I'd love to see more asian, african, indian, and other "real-world inspired" fantasy material. I like OA far more than I like Nyambe, but my objection is to people labelling it a "Rokugan primer", not to whether or not someone actually likes it. Like it, don't like it; makes no nevermind to me. But an honest-to-goodness "Rokugan primer" wouldn't have included spirit folk, hengeyokai, korobokuru, varana, wu-jen, shaman, or sohei.</p><p></p><p>Incidently, none of the 17 prestige classes in the prestige class chapter are Rokugan specific, not even the Void disciple.</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p><p>Nell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 920431, member: 70"] [b]Ah! Clarity.[/b] Ah, this clears things up. If I understand you, the problem isn't that OA presents a generic toolkit -- it's that it doesn't "wrap up" the Asian continent and create a single "cohesive campaign world". That's certainly something we can agree it doesn't do. Personally, that's exactly why I dislike Nyambe. It takes a large, diverse continent and, IMO, mushes it together into one big stew. The flavor text is intermingled with the mechanics, meaning that much more work for me to use Nyambe rules in my own campaign setting, and there's very little (to my eye) effort to link game mechanics to real world regions...useful if I'm running a region-specific campaign in some pseudo-historical Africa. OA, at least, makes an effort in this direction. But I want to touch on feats, since you specifically brought them up. In OA, 5 feats mentioned Rokugan-specific material in the effects description. Two of these mentions were "if you belong to (Rokugan) prestige class X, you get a +1 to this ability", one referred to kuni crystal, one referred to the Shadowlands, and one referred to maho. Every other "Rokugan" feat was setting-neutral. Many, if not most, were +2/+2 feats, working on exactly the same principle as the Alertness feat from the PH. I also want to make it clear, I'd love to see more asian, african, indian, and other "real-world inspired" fantasy material. I like OA far more than I like Nyambe, but my objection is to people labelling it a "Rokugan primer", not to whether or not someone actually likes it. Like it, don't like it; makes no nevermind to me. But an honest-to-goodness "Rokugan primer" wouldn't have included spirit folk, hengeyokai, korobokuru, varana, wu-jen, shaman, or sohei. Incidently, none of the 17 prestige classes in the prestige class chapter are Rokugan specific, not even the Void disciple. Cheers Nell. [/QUOTE]
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