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yes, this again: Fighters need more non-combat options
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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7548026" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Please provide the quotes of people saying you aren't allowed to modify your games to what you prefer. Or did you mean you want an official change to the class based on your preferences? Because that would be pretty ironic, you complaining about how you feel like people are telling you that your preference isn't allowed, but demanding official changes to the game that would do the exact same thing you're complaining about to a bunch of other players--eliminating the basic fighter class option from those who prefer that so you could have every class meet your personal complexity standards.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Provide quotes please of this happening multiple times on every single page. Because what you'll find are people saying that fixes aren't needed on a global scale. Which is entirely different than saying they aren't needed at your table if you feel the need to do so.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Provide quotes of people telling you to shut up and go away and play fighters quietly and happily.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Please provide quotes of people insulting you. Because as far as I can see, the only insults so far are from posters like ehren37 , who called players who like basic fighters dumb and lazy, who might only want basic fighters as some sort of revenge on jocks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I imagine it's awfully easy to paint yourself like a victim when you set up an entire army of strawmen. It also sounds like you want an echo chamber, where everyone has to agree with how you feel on the topic or they aren't allowed to post. I don't know why, maybe to make you feel like you're the majority so WoTC should cater to your preferences, and thus you don't have to realize that your style of play, while perfectly valid, is not how the game is designed and thus the onus is on you to make those changes at your table to fit your needs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7548026, member: 15700"] Please provide the quotes of people saying you aren't allowed to modify your games to what you prefer. Or did you mean you want an official change to the class based on your preferences? Because that would be pretty ironic, you complaining about how you feel like people are telling you that your preference isn't allowed, but demanding official changes to the game that would do the exact same thing you're complaining about to a bunch of other players--eliminating the basic fighter class option from those who prefer that so you could have every class meet your personal complexity standards. Provide quotes please of this happening multiple times on every single page. Because what you'll find are people saying that fixes aren't needed on a global scale. Which is entirely different than saying they aren't needed at your table if you feel the need to do so. Provide quotes of people telling you to shut up and go away and play fighters quietly and happily. Please provide quotes of people insulting you. Because as far as I can see, the only insults so far are from posters like ehren37 , who called players who like basic fighters dumb and lazy, who might only want basic fighters as some sort of revenge on jocks. I imagine it's awfully easy to paint yourself like a victim when you set up an entire army of strawmen. It also sounds like you want an echo chamber, where everyone has to agree with how you feel on the topic or they aren't allowed to post. I don't know why, maybe to make you feel like you're the majority so WoTC should cater to your preferences, and thus you don't have to realize that your style of play, while perfectly valid, is not how the game is designed and thus the onus is on you to make those changes at your table to fit your needs. [/QUOTE]
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