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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8489262" data-attributes="member: 18">I think this is a serious failure of logic in an otherwise reasonable post.Many Evil people can absolutely be reasoned with or "see the alternatives". Unreasonable people cannot be reasoned with, and exist on all alignments. Being Evil doesn't make you stupid or illogical (despite 99% of the PC "Evil" dialogue options doing just that lol), it just means that you're absolutely willing to do horrible things to people in order to achieve your goals (which can include "for the lulz"), even if you don't absolutely have to and/or if they're "innocent".Absolutely a Lawful Evil person could and quite likely would act identically to Halruun or whatever he's called. Particularly as he's absolutely willing to kill people who get in his way, even though the actual threat as he can explain it, seems to be minuscule at the point he's pursuing it, and there are tons of very real threats which he's ignoring to pursue some priests he doesn't like. Indeed, his obsession with the Desnans is somewhat irrational. You basically have to bully him into behaving like a decent human being. That's absolutely something you could do if he was LE. Hell, probably NE, given IIRC he essentially has to realize that you could kick his ass before he'll behave, and throws out all sort of dire threats before then.This is one of the key issues with the writing in WotR, I'd say, which I think is partly the product of the specific adventure and some of the themes involved, rather than inherent to alignment systems - LE and LN can be very hard to distinguish from each other. Regill is LE and considerably more reasonable and flexible than Halruun, and possibly not even as malicious-seeming (I say seeming, I can't read the mind of either, but certainly Halruun seems more irrational, vengeful and rage-filled than Regill). Tons of "Lawful" options read like something that would come out of a Lawful Evil badguy's mouth.</blockquote>

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