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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8489289" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I mean, I'm not saying your definitely wrong, but I've restarted a number of times and talked to that guy a bunch and I don't think ever considers any alternative to "KILL EM" as remotely "as acceptable" as "KILL EM". To me it looks like he has one idea for what he wants to do, and only if you actively prevent him from being able to do it does he not. You can't IIRC, just "talk him down". You need like a show of force and to make threats and stuff (I haven't played a Cleric/Paladin or LG yet though, maybe that works), and he doesn't go "Oh, yes, that's actually reasonable!" he goes "I still think we should kill em but I guess I won't this time. HMPH!". And indeed it's easy for him to decide to kill you too if you pick the wrong choices or roll poorly. Happened the first time I met him.</p><p></p><p>And I disagree strongly re: Light of Heaven. A NON-BELIEVER wouldn't be confused-confounded. But an LE believer (let's, for the sake of argument, say those exist) would absolutely be vexed by that. I mean we've seen this scene in animated movies or the like where the Evil Priest Guy is forced to confront what appears to be a miracle, and half the time they fall to their knees, the other half it's revealed they weren't actually believers, it was all a front.</p><p></p><p>Given the amount of threatening and cajoling you have to do to let him go I'm pretty sure an LE guy would do that too.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying he is Evil. I'm saying there's not external way to differentiate him from an LE guy, especially with peeps like Regill around, who are superficially more reasonable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8489289, member: 18"] I mean, I'm not saying your definitely wrong, but I've restarted a number of times and talked to that guy a bunch and I don't think ever considers any alternative to "KILL EM" as remotely "as acceptable" as "KILL EM". To me it looks like he has one idea for what he wants to do, and only if you actively prevent him from being able to do it does he not. You can't IIRC, just "talk him down". You need like a show of force and to make threats and stuff (I haven't played a Cleric/Paladin or LG yet though, maybe that works), and he doesn't go "Oh, yes, that's actually reasonable!" he goes "I still think we should kill em but I guess I won't this time. HMPH!". And indeed it's easy for him to decide to kill you too if you pick the wrong choices or roll poorly. Happened the first time I met him. And I disagree strongly re: Light of Heaven. A NON-BELIEVER wouldn't be confused-confounded. But an LE believer (let's, for the sake of argument, say those exist) would absolutely be vexed by that. I mean we've seen this scene in animated movies or the like where the Evil Priest Guy is forced to confront what appears to be a miracle, and half the time they fall to their knees, the other half it's revealed they weren't actually believers, it was all a front. Given the amount of threatening and cajoling you have to do to let him go I'm pretty sure an LE guy would do that too. I'm not saying he is Evil. I'm saying there's not external way to differentiate him from an LE guy, especially with peeps like Regill around, who are superficially more reasonable. [/QUOTE]
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