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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 4307366" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>That's a happy myth that gamers like to tell each other: "Oh, we're all the really SMART kids. OK, some of us have terrible grades and a lot of us have terrible jobs, but we're secretly super-smart, which is why we like gaming."</p><p></p><p>Gamers are pretty much just people. It's been a while since the big ENWorld mega-polls were active, but the age range, jobs, and so on were all very ordinary, not skewing any particular direction.</p><p></p><p>(For instance, you have a lot of spelling errors for someone who's theoretically more cerebral. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> We're all just folks.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Given how many people at ENWorld are practically accessing the Internet on electric typewriters and get befuddled at even basic computer tasks -- check the non-gaming forums here some time to see the questions and resulting threads -- whereas MMOs tend to be played on more advanced computers, requiring manual upgrades, I'm not sure there's a call to take a shot at the intelligence of MMO players. (And remember, there's <em>12 million</em> of them playing WoW and a million or so playing Age of Conan. That's a big broad brush you're waving around with all that tar on it.)</p><p></p><p>In addition, I'll put up, say, the Onyxia fight against any dragon in any published adventure, electronic or paper, released prior to World of Warcraft coming out. Succeeding at a difficult challenge in an MMO doesn't require any less intelligence than being a good D&D player and also requires additional skills (unless you routinely play D&D with 40 people at the table -- 72 for EverQuest I).</p><p></p><p></p><p>"Decent person" like "not insulting millions of people, including lots of ENWorld users, just because they play something that I don't?" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Both. A LOT of people have picked it up to see what's going on. At one MMO site I frequent, people have already started up an online game. I run an online (3E) game here with other people I know from MMOs as well.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, one thing about 4E that people have been spot-on about: A LOT of WoW players are interested in the virtual tabletop. It would behoove WotC to get it done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 4307366, member: 11760"] That's a happy myth that gamers like to tell each other: "Oh, we're all the really SMART kids. OK, some of us have terrible grades and a lot of us have terrible jobs, but we're secretly super-smart, which is why we like gaming." Gamers are pretty much just people. It's been a while since the big ENWorld mega-polls were active, but the age range, jobs, and so on were all very ordinary, not skewing any particular direction. (For instance, you have a lot of spelling errors for someone who's theoretically more cerebral. ;) We're all just folks.) Given how many people at ENWorld are practically accessing the Internet on electric typewriters and get befuddled at even basic computer tasks -- check the non-gaming forums here some time to see the questions and resulting threads -- whereas MMOs tend to be played on more advanced computers, requiring manual upgrades, I'm not sure there's a call to take a shot at the intelligence of MMO players. (And remember, there's [i]12 million[/i] of them playing WoW and a million or so playing Age of Conan. That's a big broad brush you're waving around with all that tar on it.) In addition, I'll put up, say, the Onyxia fight against any dragon in any published adventure, electronic or paper, released prior to World of Warcraft coming out. Succeeding at a difficult challenge in an MMO doesn't require any less intelligence than being a good D&D player and also requires additional skills (unless you routinely play D&D with 40 people at the table -- 72 for EverQuest I). "Decent person" like "not insulting millions of people, including lots of ENWorld users, just because they play something that I don't?" ;) Both. A LOT of people have picked it up to see what's going on. At one MMO site I frequent, people have already started up an online game. I run an online (3E) game here with other people I know from MMOs as well. Incidentally, one thing about 4E that people have been spot-on about: A LOT of WoW players are interested in the virtual tabletop. It would behoove WotC to get it done. [/QUOTE]
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