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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Marimmar" data-source="post: 244663" data-attributes="member: 1789">sorry for not answeringFirst I want to apologize to all who made such great contributions to this thread. I wanted to reply yesterday but i unfortunately got a full workload on my desk and had no time.And now for something completely different...Our group had long discussions about alignments and we decided that we would use modern morale standards since noone was really capable of telling what was right or wrong in medieval times. D&D is a modern game so there's nothing wrong with using modern morale standards.The captured mage was so terrified of the party that it was quite clear that he wouldn't pose a threat later on, so killing him to prevent him from further actions against the party was uncalled for. The party had several options at the moment:a) taking back their money and let the mage run after some 'naughty mage' talkb) stripping him of all his belongings and let him run after some 'naughty mage' talkc) stripping him of all his belongings and deliver him to the thieves guildd) taking back their money and deliver him to the authorities for fraude) kill and plunder himSince they chose option e) they clearly lowered themselves to the level of being thugs, thieves and murderers themselves.The other party members reacted as follows:CG elven Priestess: currently on vacationNG Wizard: he's currently in a bad mood since his wife (the elven priestess) broke up with him and is full of agressions and big talk but fails to follow through with any of his threats passing them all of as jokes. He was a bit surprised when the fighter slew the mage and gave him a funny look.LG Bard: He was alignment changed by a deck of many things (not under my DM-ship) and cannot advance anymore as a bard. He now acts all lawful good and wanted to intervene but since he's not much of a fighter he was too afraid to interpose himself. (he was affected by the trap the false password set-off, a symbol of discord, and attacked the fighter but was knocked down in a single round so he was rightfully afraid of the fighter)He later wrote a letter to the authorities in which he described the killing and warned them of the very dangerous fighter.Since they wind-walked back to their home country immediatly afterwards (which is two nations away) the local authorities couldn't catch up to the fighter.I will definitely have the thieves guild (great idea ^_^) hunt down the party and demand a compensation for their lost 'investment'. And since the authorities believe that they committed a crime themselves the party's fighter is effectively banned from Ordulin in Sembia. I take it that medieval law enforcement was quite primitive so they will be able to walk unhindered into other sembian cities as long as they do not get involved with the authorities.Having read all the posts regarding the killing by the fighter, i realized that a lot of you are either pro or con a chaotic neutral alignment. I read through the alignment descriptions and it clearly says there that 'killing out of convenience' is an evil act. Thus killing a helpless prisoner is definitely an evil act. You don't have to put up with him anymore and can continue with your own business. Being impulsive does not justify killing someone. I do consider myself a lawful neutral person but i would never think of killing someone who doesn't pose a threat to my own continued existance. Since this is a moral dilemma we are talking about it is okay to leave the chaotic/lawful axis out of our equation. It all boils down to, is killing a bound prisoner a good, neutral or evil act? Since it wouldn't have been much of an effort to turn him in to someone to deal with him apropriately or letting him go after a good beating and stripping of his belongings I consider it to be an evil act. Well i might have been a bit thin skinned then since the fighter at the moment of the capture insisted on attacking the mage's horse and splitting it in half with several critical hits (keen longsword + impr. crit) which was totally uncalled for since the mage was already pulled down by a lasso. They could have captured the horse with ease.I hope all this still makes sense somehow.~Marimmar</blockquote>

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