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<blockquote data-quote="Sadrik" data-source="post: 3046252" data-attributes="member: 14506">Monks have other things that they can do with their unnarmed attacks that they cannot do with their weapons- Stunning Fist, Fists of Iron feat, Flying kick feat and I am sure their are more. So, if the difference in the modes (still havent done a level by level breakdown of your chart) by your estimation is not enough to warrant the difference in power of using a monk weapon, what should I do?I would like the monk weapons to be usefull at low levels to get bonus damage but at upper levels they dont need them they might as well spend their money elsewhere.If a 20th level monk has a flaming frost shock fist make his attacks do 1d3 + 1d12 + 3d6 I think that is pretty decent. However you are right the money that you have at that level you could have two +7 items at least and that does out do the modes. What about increasing the modes? So that it makes them more inline with the soulblade psionic class? I believe they can get up to +5 by twentieth level.What about combining Ki Mode and Ki Power into the same ability. The player can decide to either to add +1 to his max or add a second ki mode equal to the other one. So, a monk has a +1 then he picks up asecond mode and can either increse his mode to +2 or get an additional +1. Or better yet, he gets the +2 and he gets a +1. Then on the next one he gets a +3, +2 and a +1. I dont know if that will work...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sadrik, post: 3046252, member: 14506"] Monks have other things that they can do with their unnarmed attacks that they cannot do with their weapons- Stunning Fist, Fists of Iron feat, Flying kick feat and I am sure their are more. So, if the difference in the modes (still havent done a level by level breakdown of your chart) by your estimation is not enough to warrant the difference in power of using a monk weapon, what should I do? I would like the monk weapons to be usefull at low levels to get bonus damage but at upper levels they dont need them they might as well spend their money elsewhere. If a 20th level monk has a flaming frost shock fist make his attacks do 1d3 + 1d12 + 3d6 I think that is pretty decent. However you are right the money that you have at that level you could have two +7 items at least and that does out do the modes. What about increasing the modes? So that it makes them more inline with the soulblade psionic class? I believe they can get up to +5 by twentieth level. What about combining Ki Mode and Ki Power into the same ability. The player can decide to either to add +1 to his max or add a second ki mode equal to the other one. So, a monk has a +1 then he picks up asecond mode and can either increse his mode to +2 or get an additional +1. Or better yet, he gets the +2 and he gets a +1. Then on the next one he gets a +3, +2 and a +1. I dont know if that will work... [/QUOTE]

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