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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7538449" data-attributes="member: 177">This kind of proves my point, rather than stands as a counterpoint.  The actual property added only the name - it didn't bring any of the stuff to actually make a good movie with it.  They made a fantasy pirate movie, and slapped the name on it.  Not "a toy".  An entire toy line that is (drumroll please) comprised of a bunch of highly iconic characters that had been in broad-audience comic books and TV for years.  And note how the movie in the property that is actually getting good reviews (opening *tomorrow* - Bumblebee) is very much focused on one character.  That's not really what I said.When you do a superhero movie, you have the central superhero, and the tropes that come with them.  You do a Pirates of the Caribbean movie, you get a whole lot of pirate tropes to work with - even if you aren't working with a well-known named character, you have iconic imagery and character *types*.You do a D&D movie... you don't have those things, at least not for the mass audience.  Drizzt and Dragonalnce are the only characters anyone outside the D&D fanbase have a snowball's chance in heck of recognizing.  The latter are more tied to Dragonlance than D&D (including rights, I expect), and drow are complicated, as noted in the OP.  In most movie making, you get to use your genre to your own advantage.  To do a D&D movie, you *have to teach the audience about the iconic bits of D&D in the process*.And, you can do that, sure.  It is by no means impossible to present a fantasy movie with D&D tropes in it!  But, the author and director have to bring those, they don't come to the audience *with the name*. So, if I have to teach the audience all the tropes anyway... why am I also *paying* someone to use the D&D brand?  Why am I not just making my own fantasy movie?  Given the dorky and bad-movie baggage "D&D movie" now carries with it?</blockquote>

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