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Yet Another Non-Vancian Spellcasting System
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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3080424" data-attributes="member: 12460"><p>This is a really simple fix. It gives spellcasters quite a bit more power, but still requires them to budget resources. Each spell prepared can be cast a total number of times per day equal to the character's spellcaster level - (spell level x 2) + 2, with a maximum of the character's primary spellcasting ability score. So a 1st level cleric can cast each 1st level spell he has prepared once per day. At 2nd level he can cast each 1st level spell he has prepared twice per day, as long as he has a Wisdom of 14 or higher. At 3rd level, he can cast each 1st level spell he has prepared three times per day, as long as he has a Wisdom of 16 or higher, and he can cast each 2nd level spell he has prepared once per day, and so on and so forth.</p><p></p><p>Spontaneous casters can cast each spell they know a number of times per day equal to their current spells per day, with a limit of their Charisma modifier.</p><p></p><p>I do not believe this would be overpowering because it does not increase the number of times you can cast your highest level spells by the first level you have them and limiting high level spells should be the main concern of balance.</p><p></p><p>Another system is to allow each spell to be cast a number of times per day equal to your ability score - spell level - 9. So a cleric with a 15 Wisdom could cast each 1st level spell 5 times per day but his 5th level spells he could only cast once per day.</p><p></p><p>Yes, I know it gives spellcasters more power and that is the main gripe I predict will result from this thread. But it might be worth considering for those who think the Vancian spellcasting limits spellcasters far too much. A quick fix might be to simply reduce the durations of some spells to prevent characters from walking around super buffed all the time. This might work well with my fixed spell durations system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 3080424, member: 12460"] This is a really simple fix. It gives spellcasters quite a bit more power, but still requires them to budget resources. Each spell prepared can be cast a total number of times per day equal to the character's spellcaster level - (spell level x 2) + 2, with a maximum of the character's primary spellcasting ability score. So a 1st level cleric can cast each 1st level spell he has prepared once per day. At 2nd level he can cast each 1st level spell he has prepared twice per day, as long as he has a Wisdom of 14 or higher. At 3rd level, he can cast each 1st level spell he has prepared three times per day, as long as he has a Wisdom of 16 or higher, and he can cast each 2nd level spell he has prepared once per day, and so on and so forth. Spontaneous casters can cast each spell they know a number of times per day equal to their current spells per day, with a limit of their Charisma modifier. I do not believe this would be overpowering because it does not increase the number of times you can cast your highest level spells by the first level you have them and limiting high level spells should be the main concern of balance. Another system is to allow each spell to be cast a number of times per day equal to your ability score - spell level - 9. So a cleric with a 15 Wisdom could cast each 1st level spell 5 times per day but his 5th level spells he could only cast once per day. Yes, I know it gives spellcasters more power and that is the main gripe I predict will result from this thread. But it might be worth considering for those who think the Vancian spellcasting limits spellcasters far too much. A quick fix might be to simply reduce the durations of some spells to prevent characters from walking around super buffed all the time. This might work well with my fixed spell durations system. [/QUOTE]
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