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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 314033" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>Re</strong></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry Dragonblade, you are way off base. You are talking about some chaotic good or neutral good character, not a lawful good Paladin. </p><p></p><p>Always is the lawful part forgotten when convenient. The lawful part of the Paladin is the one who believes in having strict codes of law so that order is maintained.</p><p></p><p>Why? So that people cannot just kill their neighbors with impunity because they were wronged under the eyes of their god. That is the difference between Lawful Good Paladins and say Neutral or Chaotic good rangers and clerics.</p><p></p><p>Paladins must satisfy the lawful part of their alignment whether they are knights or some other type of Paladin. There is no getting around it in the case of the Paladin. They are divinely mandated to maintain a sense of lawful order as well crush evil. </p><p></p><p>They cannot kill who they want anyway they feel like because they are evil. They have to engage in a lawful process of justice.</p><p></p><p>That is the gyst of the argument. Did the Paladin by using subterfuge and silence spells satisfy the lawful part of his alignment when bringing these men to trial. For me, the disintegration part is more akin to the good part of the Paladin's alignment. The basic question for me being whether or not he satisfied his own churches idea of proper burial rights given to the dead. </p><p></p><p>There are some definite inconsistencies in the whole scenario.</p><p></p><p>1. If they slaughtered them in combat, did he think they deserved honorable combat or was he just murdering weaker opponents? If they were guilty, why didn't he just outright execute them? Given the circumstances, this would have been just as viable as fighting them in melee combat.</p><p></p><p>2. If he did believe they were honorable, why didn't he give them a chance to sue for mercy? </p><p></p><p>3. If he wanted to enact retribution, why didn't he do it publicly by leaving a pile of bodies or maybe piked heads as a display of the churches retributice act? Why all the subterfuge and the use of disintegration chamber to hide what he did? Why would a paladin have to hide his just act?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Just doesn't make sense to me. It woudln't even be an issue were this some neutral or chaotic good fighter or ranger. This just doesn't seem like the act of a lawful good Paladin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 314033, member: 5834"] [b]Re[/b] I'm sorry Dragonblade, you are way off base. You are talking about some chaotic good or neutral good character, not a lawful good Paladin. Always is the lawful part forgotten when convenient. The lawful part of the Paladin is the one who believes in having strict codes of law so that order is maintained. Why? So that people cannot just kill their neighbors with impunity because they were wronged under the eyes of their god. That is the difference between Lawful Good Paladins and say Neutral or Chaotic good rangers and clerics. Paladins must satisfy the lawful part of their alignment whether they are knights or some other type of Paladin. There is no getting around it in the case of the Paladin. They are divinely mandated to maintain a sense of lawful order as well crush evil. They cannot kill who they want anyway they feel like because they are evil. They have to engage in a lawful process of justice. That is the gyst of the argument. Did the Paladin by using subterfuge and silence spells satisfy the lawful part of his alignment when bringing these men to trial. For me, the disintegration part is more akin to the good part of the Paladin's alignment. The basic question for me being whether or not he satisfied his own churches idea of proper burial rights given to the dead. There are some definite inconsistencies in the whole scenario. 1. If they slaughtered them in combat, did he think they deserved honorable combat or was he just murdering weaker opponents? If they were guilty, why didn't he just outright execute them? Given the circumstances, this would have been just as viable as fighting them in melee combat. 2. If he did believe they were honorable, why didn't he give them a chance to sue for mercy? 3. If he wanted to enact retribution, why didn't he do it publicly by leaving a pile of bodies or maybe piked heads as a display of the churches retributice act? Why all the subterfuge and the use of disintegration chamber to hide what he did? Why would a paladin have to hide his just act? Just doesn't make sense to me. It woudln't even be an issue were this some neutral or chaotic good fighter or ranger. This just doesn't seem like the act of a lawful good Paladin. [/QUOTE]
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