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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Derren" data-source="post: 6092102" data-attributes="member: 2518">That doesn't really sound all that convincing. Why would a nation unlearn to make weapons? Don't they have to defend itself any more or at least have an army who can defend them if necessary? That such a nation would stagnate technologically and would not have the best firearms any more is reasonable (see China as example) but that they unlearn to do it? For that to happen there must be a religious or social shift which would make guns obsolete or discriminated against (again, see China and ships).Imo the best solutions would either be only having primitive firearms which are inferior to bows and also have only a short effective range, not enough to prevent a charging enemy from reaching you after taking some losses (see high middle ages) or to have gunpowder be much more complicated to manufacture which limits the spread of guns (and their development).</blockquote>