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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4913186" data-attributes="member: 5038">You are not taking into account maneuver drawbacks which are an important factor in the BOIM system.&nbsp; Maneuver drawbacks when added to the maneuver, reduce the to hit penalty. Furthermore, you can add multiple drawbacks to reduce the to hit penalty.&nbsp; For instance, the maneuver might have the following drawbacks Full Round Action: Reduces the penalty by 5Target gets a saving throw reduces penalty by 5&nbsp; (or, maybe, give the target an opposed attack roll instead of a save)Attack of Opportunity, Target only:&nbsp; reduces penalty by 5 or 10Now, before the fighter's attack bonuses, the blinding attack has a penalty of either&nbsp; -15 or -10.&nbsp; Since it won't require a natural 20 to hit, even a first level fighter can attempt it.&nbsp; &nbsp;If you just want to blind the target and skip doing damage, add the following to the above:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Effect only:&nbsp; reduces penalty by 5Now, the attack penalty is either -10 or -5</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 4913186, member: 5038"] You are not taking into account maneuver drawbacks which are an important factor in the BOIM system. Maneuver drawbacks when added to the maneuver, reduce the to hit penalty. Furthermore, you can add multiple drawbacks to reduce the to hit penalty. For instance, the maneuver might have the following drawbacks Full Round Action: Reduces the penalty by 5 Target gets a saving throw reduces penalty by 5 (or, maybe, give the target an opposed attack roll instead of a save) Attack of Opportunity, Target only: reduces penalty by 5 or 10 Now, before the fighter's attack bonuses, the blinding attack has a penalty of either -15 or -10. Since it won't require a natural 20 to hit, even a first level fighter can attempt it. If you just want to blind the target and skip doing damage, add the following to the above: Effect only: reduces penalty by 5 Now, the attack penalty is either -10 or -5 [/QUOTE]

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