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<blockquote data-quote="UltimaGabe" data-source="post: 1648999" data-attributes="member: 16019"><p>Alright, I've reached another point of confusion with the Artificer- this time I'm confused about part of the Item Creation process.</p><p></p><p>I've read over the Artificer ability description several times, and I'm just not sure about something. I'm pretty sure the main question is this: Can an Artificer make items at a different caster level than the minimum (or different from the caster level presented, in the case of Wondrous Items)? If so, what's the limitation? For example, let's say an Artificer wanted to make a scroll of Fireball at 7th level rather than 5th level, the minimum. What would he have to do to do so? Is he limited by his Artificer level? In other words, can a 5th-level Artificer make a 7th-level scroll? If so, what would the UMD DC be? The Item Creation ability description vaguely answers this, saying that in regards to item prerequisites, treat your caster level as your Artificer level +2. But then it says that the item created doesn't actually have that as its caster level- with the example being a scroll of Fireball made by a 3rd-level Artificer would do 3d6 rather than 5d6, since the ACTUAL caster level was 3, while the EFFECTIVE caster level was 5. In this example, they list the cost and the xp cost, but they fail to mention the UMD DC for such an action. Would you have to make a Use Magic Device check of 23 (since it's 20 + caster level), or 25 (since it's 20 + caster level)? The confusion doesn't even end there.</p><p></p><p>Let's say a 7th-level Artificer wants to make a scroll of Fireball. Could he make it at 7th-level, paying all of the increased costs (the higher GP and XP costs for a higher caster level) and even making a higher DC (27), or can he only make the minimum? If he's allowed to make it higher levels, is he limited by his Artificer level? The rules simply aren't clear on this.</p><p></p><p>Is there anyone out there that can explain Item Creation for an Artificer in a way I can understand? Because it seems simple when you want to make something that's exactly spelled out in the book, but once you want to make something of your own there's no basis for it. Please help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UltimaGabe, post: 1648999, member: 16019"] Alright, I've reached another point of confusion with the Artificer- this time I'm confused about part of the Item Creation process. I've read over the Artificer ability description several times, and I'm just not sure about something. I'm pretty sure the main question is this: Can an Artificer make items at a different caster level than the minimum (or different from the caster level presented, in the case of Wondrous Items)? If so, what's the limitation? For example, let's say an Artificer wanted to make a scroll of Fireball at 7th level rather than 5th level, the minimum. What would he have to do to do so? Is he limited by his Artificer level? In other words, can a 5th-level Artificer make a 7th-level scroll? If so, what would the UMD DC be? The Item Creation ability description vaguely answers this, saying that in regards to item prerequisites, treat your caster level as your Artificer level +2. But then it says that the item created doesn't actually have that as its caster level- with the example being a scroll of Fireball made by a 3rd-level Artificer would do 3d6 rather than 5d6, since the ACTUAL caster level was 3, while the EFFECTIVE caster level was 5. In this example, they list the cost and the xp cost, but they fail to mention the UMD DC for such an action. Would you have to make a Use Magic Device check of 23 (since it's 20 + caster level), or 25 (since it's 20 + caster level)? The confusion doesn't even end there. Let's say a 7th-level Artificer wants to make a scroll of Fireball. Could he make it at 7th-level, paying all of the increased costs (the higher GP and XP costs for a higher caster level) and even making a higher DC (27), or can he only make the minimum? If he's allowed to make it higher levels, is he limited by his Artificer level? The rules simply aren't clear on this. Is there anyone out there that can explain Item Creation for an Artificer in a way I can understand? Because it seems simple when you want to make something that's exactly spelled out in the book, but once you want to make something of your own there's no basis for it. Please help. [/QUOTE]
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