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<blockquote data-quote="Sunking" data-source="post: 5085744" data-attributes="member: 87198"><p>weel i was thinking about the special abilityes you can buy, and one thing what if it as (SU) wich looks or are a lot like a spell exambels following its abilityes i feel would give Sirion the right feel of Psion but should they be bought as 1 special ability or bought throu the spell-like ability option ??</p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white">---</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Detect Thoughts (</span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities" target="_blank">Su</a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">)</span></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">A doppelganger can continuously use </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/detectThoughts.htm" target="_blank"><em>detect thoughts</em></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> as the spell (caster level 18th; Will DC 13 negates). It can suppress or resume this ability as a </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/actionsInCombat.htm#freeActions" target="_blank">free action</a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">. </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white">The save DC is Charisma-based.</span> </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">It would still be at will but not continual if i bought it as a spell like</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">---</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dominateMonster.htm" target="_blank"><em><span style="color: white">Dominate Monster</span></em></a></span><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> (</span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities" target="_blank">Su</a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">)</span></span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">A formian taskmaster can use a </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dominateMonster.htm" target="_blank"><em>dominate monster</em></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> ability as the spell from a 10th-level caster (Will DC 17 negates), although the subject may be of any kind and may be up to Large size. Creatures that successfully save cannot be affected by the same taskmaster’s </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dominateMonster.htm" target="_blank"><em>dominate monster</em></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> ability for 24 hours. A single taskmaster can dominate up to four subjects at a time. </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white">The save DC is Charisma-based.</span> </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white">I know I anit gonna get this one for one point special buy but what would it cost to buy this one</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">---</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">And then for Sirions dark side how would this work and what would it cost</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Trap Essence (</span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000066">Su</span></a></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">)</span></strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">The devourer is named for its ability to consume an enemy’s life essence. To do so, it must forgo its normal melee attacks and make a trap essence attack. This requires a normal </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#attackRoll" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000066">attack roll</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> but deals no damage. The save DC is Charisma-based. A slain creature’s essence is trapped within the devourer’s ribs, and the tiny figure takes on that victim’s features. The trapped essence cannot be raised or resurrected, but a </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/limitedWish.htm" target="_blank"><em><span style="color: #000066">limited wish</span></em></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">, </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/miracle.htm" target="_blank"><em><span style="color: #000066">miracle</span></em></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">, or </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wish.htm" target="_blank"><em><span style="color: #000066">wish</span></em></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> spell frees it, as does destroying the devourer. A devourer can hold only one essence at a time. </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">The trapped essence provides a devourer with enough power to use five </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000066">spell-like abilities</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> for each Hit Die or level of the trapped creature. As this energy is expended, the twisted soul fades away until it evaporates completely. The trapped essence gains one </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#energyDrainAndNegativeLevels" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000066">negative level</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> for every five times the devourer uses one of its </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000066">spell-like abilities</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">. When the essence’s number of negative levels equals the creature’s total Hit Dice or level, the essence is destroyed. If an essence is freed, the restored creature must succeed on a DC 19 </span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#fortitude" target="_blank"><span style="color: #000066">Fortitude save</span></a></span><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"> for each negative level or lose that level permanently. </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span> </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">my suggestion might be somthing allong the line of </span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">the comsumed essens grant a pool of 5XHD wich can be used to power Spell-like abilitys (normal price) bought only for this purpos (no other uses) and payed 1 essens per lvl of spell wich means if i bought fireball it would cost 3 essens evry time it was used...</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">dont know if this will work, im in both camps about this ability myself.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">Anybody got a oppineion.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">---</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'">ohh and i have looked at the first 2 carekters in the RP it looks good</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sunking, post: 5085744, member: 87198"] weel i was thinking about the special abilityes you can buy, and one thing what if it as (SU) wich looks or are a lot like a spell exambels following its abilityes i feel would give Sirion the right feel of Psion but should they be bought as 1 special ability or bought throu the spell-like ability option ?? [FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=white]---[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS][B][COLOR=white][FONT=Trebuchet MS]Detect Thoughts ([/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities"]Su[/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS])[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=white][FONT=Trebuchet MS]A doppelganger can continuously use [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/detectThoughts.htm"][I]detect thoughts[/I][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] as the spell (caster level 18th; Will DC 13 negates). It can suppress or resume this ability as a [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/actionsInCombat.htm#freeActions"]free action[/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS]. [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=white]The save DC is Charisma-based.[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS]It would still be at will but not continual if i bought it as a spell like[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS]---[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dominateMonster.htm"][I][COLOR=white]Dominate Monster[/COLOR][/I][/URL][/FONT][COLOR=white][FONT=Trebuchet MS] ([/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities"]Su[/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS])[/FONT][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=white][FONT=Trebuchet MS]A formian taskmaster can use a [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dominateMonster.htm"][I]dominate monster[/I][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] ability as the spell from a 10th-level caster (Will DC 17 negates), although the subject may be of any kind and may be up to Large size. Creatures that successfully save cannot be affected by the same taskmaster’s [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/dominateMonster.htm"][I]dominate monster[/I][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] ability for 24 hours. A single taskmaster can dominate up to four subjects at a time. [/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=white]The save DC is Charisma-based.[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#000000][/COLOR] [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=white]I know I anit gonna get this one for one point special buy but what would it cost to buy this one[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]---[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]And then for Sirions dark side how would this work and what would it cost[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][COLOR=white][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS]Trap Essence ([/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#supernaturalAbilities"][COLOR=#000066]Su[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Trebuchet MS])[/FONT][/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Trebuchet MS]The devourer is named for its ability to consume an enemy’s life essence. To do so, it must forgo its normal melee attacks and make a trap essence attack. This requires a normal [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#attackRoll"][COLOR=#000066]attack roll[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] but deals no damage. The save DC is Charisma-based. A slain creature’s essence is trapped within the devourer’s ribs, and the tiny figure takes on that victim’s features. The trapped essence cannot be raised or resurrected, but a [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/limitedWish.htm"][I][COLOR=#000066]limited wish[/COLOR][/I][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS], [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/miracle.htm"][I][COLOR=#000066]miracle[/COLOR][/I][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS], or [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/wish.htm"][I][COLOR=#000066]wish[/COLOR][/I][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] spell frees it, as does destroying the devourer. A devourer can hold only one essence at a time. [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Trebuchet MS]The trapped essence provides a devourer with enough power to use five [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities"][COLOR=#000066]spell-like abilities[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] for each Hit Die or level of the trapped creature. As this energy is expended, the twisted soul fades away until it evaporates completely. The trapped essence gains one [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#energyDrainAndNegativeLevels"][COLOR=#000066]negative level[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] for every five times the devourer uses one of its [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#spellLikeAbilities"][COLOR=#000066]spell-like abilities[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS]. When the essence’s number of negative levels equals the creature’s total Hit Dice or level, the essence is destroyed. If an essence is freed, the restored creature must succeed on a DC 19 [/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#fortitude"][COLOR=#000066]Fortitude save[/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][FONT=Trebuchet MS] for each negative level or lose that level permanently. [/FONT][/COLOR] [/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]my suggestion might be somthing allong the line of [/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]the comsumed essens grant a pool of 5XHD wich can be used to power Spell-like abilitys (normal price) bought only for this purpos (no other uses) and payed 1 essens per lvl of spell wich means if i bought fireball it would cost 3 essens evry time it was used...[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]dont know if this will work, im in both camps about this ability myself.[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]Anybody got a oppineion.[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]---[/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS][/FONT] [FONT=Trebuchet MS]ohh and i have looked at the first 2 carekters in the RP it looks good[/FONT] [/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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