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<blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 6003372" data-attributes="member: 1106"><p>Well, for some of us it just isn't, and never will be. Hundreds of thousands of ASCII characters have been spilt on the topic, both for and against, but the very fact of this may hint that the argument has purchase. </p><p></p><p>I don't consider you inferior or misguided, but push come to shove, I don't share your particular vision of what constitutes D&D. And I maintain that, in my opinion, 4E isn't D&D as I know it or want it to be. The thing is, 4E was such a departure from D&D's past that it is alien to a good deal of the existing D&D audience, such that when it came out, draping itself in D&D's colours and livery like so much drag, the statement that "4E is not D&D" was just a way for disappointed and disenfranchised existing D&D fans to call it out as an imposter.</p><p></p><p>Which, arguably, it is. The sacred cows it delighted in roasting, the retcons it required to have existing worlds fit to it's new implied setting, and the gamist direction it took with disassociated mechanics were all done unashamedly. Small wonder that former fans didn't hesitate in unashamedly pointing out that it was an imposter to the name of D&D, as they knew it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rounser, post: 6003372, member: 1106"] Well, for some of us it just isn't, and never will be. Hundreds of thousands of ASCII characters have been spilt on the topic, both for and against, but the very fact of this may hint that the argument has purchase. I don't consider you inferior or misguided, but push come to shove, I don't share your particular vision of what constitutes D&D. And I maintain that, in my opinion, 4E isn't D&D as I know it or want it to be. The thing is, 4E was such a departure from D&D's past that it is alien to a good deal of the existing D&D audience, such that when it came out, draping itself in D&D's colours and livery like so much drag, the statement that "4E is not D&D" was just a way for disappointed and disenfranchised existing D&D fans to call it out as an imposter. Which, arguably, it is. The sacred cows it delighted in roasting, the retcons it required to have existing worlds fit to it's new implied setting, and the gamist direction it took with disassociated mechanics were all done unashamedly. Small wonder that former fans didn't hesitate in unashamedly pointing out that it was an imposter to the name of D&D, as they knew it. [/QUOTE]
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