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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6003431" data-attributes="member: 58416">Further thoughts...I realized that it seems like I'm picking on 4E. That is not my intent. I'm just trying to express the relationship I have with the game.  It's also something I'm passionate about because I *do* feel 4E did a lot of things right and honestly did take a few steps in the right direction in some areas.  Unfortunately; at the same time, it somehow took all of those steps which were in a direction I felt was right and ended up somewhere completely different than where I wanted to go.One of the biggest improvements for me would be the ideals behind encounter design.  I like the idea of having a lot of moving pieces in an encounter. To me, a bunch of creatures facing off against the PCs is more interesting than a small number of CR appropriate creatures being beat upon by a group.  Likewise, I felt that the lessened power curve between levels was a great thing.  I liked that creatures could (in theory) still be a threat across a more broad range of levels. In 3rd Edition, sometimes the difference of one level was a world of change.  Suddenly, I would find myself going back through encounters I had written and needing to change all of the creatures into something else or spend time giving kobolds several class levels.Item dependency was something of a mixed bag. Even though 4E has less 'required' items -something I feel is good, it somehow seems as though the ones that are required are more heavily assumed to be part of the character.  It somehow always seemed to me that I was trading things out more often even though I had less items.  The early fluff is something I thought was fantastic.  There are aspects of 4E which I highly enjoy, but that's why looking at the game as a whole is so frustrating for me.  It perplexes me that there can be so many elements I like, yet I still somehow cannot fully embrace the game.  I feel that the last few games I DMed went exceptionally well, but -to get there- I needed to make more than a few tweaks to both my style and the system.  The tweaks I mentioned are important. Suffice to say that I more often felt I had to change my vision to fit the will of the system than I felt I could bend the system to fit my vision of how things should play out.  I don't fault the game for that. It does what it is intended to do. I simply feel that what it is intended to do isn't necessarily what it was advertised to do.</blockquote>

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