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Message: <blockquote data-quote="triqui" data-source="post: 6006176" data-attributes="member: 57948">You read wrong. The problem of 3e is they made the mistake to belief that monsters and players following the same rules, is balance, when it's not.They live in the same fantasy world, but live to different standards. That's why there is no problem with Fire Giants having +16 to STR, but there will be problems with a PC race having +16 to STR.Those somebodies have a hard time then, because almost any published adventure give the important NPC elite array or some other stuff. I'm quite confident that the goblin's two healing potions are ussually held by the Goblin King and not the Goblin Lackey in 99% of the adventures out there.I mean abilities like str, dex, con, int, wis and cha. There's no problem if the goblin king has a better array than the goblin lackey, but most players won't agree with having 20points buy while rangers (or any other class) has 25. Or if you roll, most people won't agree with rolling 4d6 and drop lower, while the ranger rolls 6d6 and drop 3 lower. So the disparity and balance between players is much more important than the disparity between NPC, because it does not really matter if you build a NPC which is a dumb, idiot, slow and comical goblin lackey that is good for nothing but for comical relief, while most players wouldn't want to be the party buffoon, unable to contribute in anything. There's a world of difference. No, and that's the problem If you play two opposing characters in D&D, and one of them is a wizard, and the other is a fighter, unless you purosefully choose to dumb down your wizard character, he will be better than your fighter character.  To make Angel Summoner and BMX master blaanced, you have to either min-max BMX to the sky, dumb down Angel summoner, or both. Because the target is making them happy whatever their *playstile* is. If I happen to like Conan books much more than Elminster books (which I do), I shouldn't be punished with an inferior class just because I like an archetype better than others.By playing in the same league, you mean like Nigeria playing the same baskeball tournament in London 2012 than USA's Dream Team? Yeah... Nigeria has been playing basketball for a long time. It's the class balance what I'm talking here. Especifically, full spellcasters balance.</blockquote>

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