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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6007253" data-attributes="member: 58416">Conversely, my experience with 4E is that I've only had 2 PCs of mine die.  Both were a result of misunderstanding how diseases were supposed to work combined with mummy rot. I'm happy for people who have had other experiences. Having fun is good; I don't begrudge anyone for it.  From my side of the table;for some reason -possibly a failing of my own; I don't deny the possibility-I've had difficulty getting the experience I want. Strangely, this is in spite of 4E having a lot of elements which -in isolation- I actually like. As a player, I've gone 1-30 a few times, and I've had only the two deaths mentioned above.  As a DM I've gotten different results, but only after sitting down and tinkering with the nuts and bolts of the system. While I feel that the last game I ran went very well, it went well because (as alluded to elsewhere) I chose to embrace the gonzo nature of the game instead of going with what I had originally planned.  I had an amazingly fun time running that game.  However, I still feel as though -with 4E- I've never really gotten a chance to run the style of game I'd like to run.</blockquote>