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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6022465" data-attributes="member: 6696971">It is a little more "unwieldy" than with standard fair 5 party group covering all of the role basis. However, my gaming group has long since existed of only 3 PCs (since about 2006).  We've run 2 games of 4e, one of which was played through level 26.  If anyone is interested on how we/I made this work, I would be willing to post something.  However, it would likely be a long post (something that I would have to devote some time to) to explain it with the required granularity.  The short version is that: - The PCs have to diversify their repetoire of powers.  Allowing multi-class power swaps for just the multi-class fit assists in this.  I allowed 2 multi-classes so that each PC could multi into a leader role (if they wished) to get the "Healing Word" ability or its martial, arcane, primal analog.  Further, it is a good idea for people to go heavy on activatable defense abilities/immediate actions.  Picking appropriate themes is also quite helpful to this end.  All of this "Leadershipesque" secondary and "self-sustainability" alleviates the need for a primary leader which allows for Defender, Striker, Stiker/Controller as a setup.- Second Wind should be moved to a minor action (a la Dwarves).- Point Buy needs to be amped up a wee bit.- As we progressed into Paragon and then Epic tiers I did some more complex things (that were premised upon Solo/Elite action economy rules) in order to properly model the balance of a 5 player group through those tiers.- The DM needs to playtest these groups of characters against multiple encounter types (and significantly) against the output of a standard 5 man group in order to attain congruent output.  This may be right out for some folks because it may be a pain.  However, I can run an entire encounter by myself in 20 minutes or so (develop standard methodology for group dynamics, use a pre-set group of rolls and repeat).  I suspect I'm not a special and unique snowflake in this regard so I think proficent DMs should be able to do this testing.</blockquote>

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