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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5483346" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I think you can do a lot with HTML5/JS, and you could do a lot with HTML4. Heck I've built some very nice web apps, and I'm sure it IS possible to build something like CB, but contrast the basically hand crafting you're doing with something like Google's APIs where 90% of the work is really dealing with the quirks and oddities of HTML rendering, bizarre javascript oddities in 12 different browser variations, and building a page is an exercise in CSS tweaking. The alternative being WinForms or whatever the heck it is that is the latest flavor of UI design from Redmond. It is all point, click, drag, map attribute to widget, attach event handler, presto it works. Really, the whole secret is in the IDE and nobody but nobody has a UI layout tool that touches MSVS, not even close. I've been working for years in the Java Enterprise application space, I have every tool ever made for doing Java stuff, and the best UI tools are total crap by comparison.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, well, lets just say that a company like WotC is going to instantly say 'no thanks' when you tell them you're going to make it impossible for 30-50% of their existing DDI users to use the new tool you're coming out with. That's the reality. You have 20% of the people still on IE6 with XP, another 30% on IE7 (not really that much better, sure isn't doing anything 'HTML5'), etc. AND they now have to support IE6/7/8/9, FF3.x/4, Chrome versions, Safari versions, and that guy that insists on having it work on JuicyFruit HappyBrowser... Yeah, it's a nightmare. Been there, done that. No thanks. What do they gain either? The UI for CB is still unsuitable for a tablet or phone. You MIGHT kludge your way through using it with a tablet, but I doubt it would be fun. There would basically have to be a whole second UI for tablets, a third one for phones, and a fourth one for the guy that puts it up on his big TV in the game room and uses a remote.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5483346, member: 82106"] I think you can do a lot with HTML5/JS, and you could do a lot with HTML4. Heck I've built some very nice web apps, and I'm sure it IS possible to build something like CB, but contrast the basically hand crafting you're doing with something like Google's APIs where 90% of the work is really dealing with the quirks and oddities of HTML rendering, bizarre javascript oddities in 12 different browser variations, and building a page is an exercise in CSS tweaking. The alternative being WinForms or whatever the heck it is that is the latest flavor of UI design from Redmond. It is all point, click, drag, map attribute to widget, attach event handler, presto it works. Really, the whole secret is in the IDE and nobody but nobody has a UI layout tool that touches MSVS, not even close. I've been working for years in the Java Enterprise application space, I have every tool ever made for doing Java stuff, and the best UI tools are total crap by comparison. Yeah, well, lets just say that a company like WotC is going to instantly say 'no thanks' when you tell them you're going to make it impossible for 30-50% of their existing DDI users to use the new tool you're coming out with. That's the reality. You have 20% of the people still on IE6 with XP, another 30% on IE7 (not really that much better, sure isn't doing anything 'HTML5'), etc. AND they now have to support IE6/7/8/9, FF3.x/4, Chrome versions, Safari versions, and that guy that insists on having it work on JuicyFruit HappyBrowser... Yeah, it's a nightmare. Been there, done that. No thanks. What do they gain either? The UI for CB is still unsuitable for a tablet or phone. You MIGHT kludge your way through using it with a tablet, but I doubt it would be fun. There would basically have to be a whole second UI for tablets, a third one for phones, and a fourth one for the guy that puts it up on his big TV in the game room and uses a remote. [/QUOTE]
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