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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5368770" data-attributes="member: 177">I'd call it what it is - &quot;allowing someone else to deal with the mechanics&quot;, without all the connotation that this is like not being potty trained.For the game to proceed, this must be an agreed-upon arrangement between player and GM.&nbsp; There is no presumption - there is instead a responsibility (and trust) actively given to the GM to do certain things in the game, and a corresponding acceptance of that responsibility on the part of the GM.That calls for more respect for each other, rather than less. One of the best meals I had in a restaurant recently was a &quot;chef's choice&quot; - I knew I was getting a soup, an appetizer, an entree, and a dessert, but I didn't know exactly what they'd be.&nbsp; The chef most certainly didn't know my own tastes better than I do.&nbsp; But allowing the chef to choose for me does not render me into an infant.&nbsp; I made a mature choice to experience things as they came, rather than to seize control.You seem to react is if this is about force and a power relationship - as if somehow the players can't just say, &quot;No, thanks&quot; when this is proposed.&nbsp; I think if anyone is treating the players as infants, it is you - you are insisting you know what's good for players.&nbsp; If you were treating players as mature themselves, you'd allow them to make that choice, would you not?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5368770, member: 177"] I'd call it what it is - "allowing someone else to deal with the mechanics", without all the connotation that this is like not being potty trained. For the game to proceed, this must be an agreed-upon arrangement between player and GM. There is no presumption - there is instead a responsibility (and trust) actively given to the GM to do certain things in the game, and a corresponding acceptance of that responsibility on the part of the GM. That calls for more respect for each other, rather than less. One of the best meals I had in a restaurant recently was a "chef's choice" - I knew I was getting a soup, an appetizer, an entree, and a dessert, but I didn't know exactly what they'd be. The chef most certainly didn't know my own tastes better than I do. But allowing the chef to choose for me does not render me into an infant. I made a mature choice to experience things as they came, rather than to seize control. You seem to react is if this is about force and a power relationship - as if somehow the players can't just say, "No, thanks" when this is proposed. I think if anyone is treating the players as infants, it is you - you are insisting you know what's good for players. If you were treating players as mature themselves, you'd allow them to make that choice, would you not? [/QUOTE]

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