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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5371052" data-attributes="member: 19675">Well, actually, what I was doing was &quot;I want to breathe arcane lightning!&quot; (very few ways to do that, and only one can be done at 1st level, which is what I stated when I introduced this chimeric PC) followed by &quot;I want to cast some divine spells&quot;, a message that failed to be conveyed via words, apparently- how much more difficult a message to convey via role-play?And because of the profound in-game differences between an arcanist who is religious enough to learn a few divine spells (while not multiclassing at all) and a PC who has actually multiclassed into a divine caster class (in D&amp;D), my concern is non-trivial.&nbsp; The former adds a few divine spells to his bag of tricks while his breath weapon increases in power and uses/day every level, the latter probably gains power over the undead.&nbsp; That can lead to a huge disparity between expectations of play if the player &amp; DM are not in agreement.That disparity affects everything from adventure design (the DM expecting the divinely infused PC to turn undead may increase amount &amp; power of undead in the campaign...a power the player has no reason to expect to have), to playstyle and combat tactics &amp; results (when the player maneuvers his PC into a position and informs the DM he's breathing lightning at the target...to be informed that he's fresh out of attempts).Thats a big gap between expectations, with REAL in-game consequences.&nbsp; And note, I'm just looking at the class benefits, not their strictures.So forgive me if I continue to damn D&amp;D for this kind of game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5371052, member: 19675"] Well, actually, what I was doing was "I want to breathe [B]arcane[/B] lightning!" (very few ways to do that, and only one can be done at 1st level, which is what I stated when I introduced this chimeric PC) followed by "I want to cast some divine spells", a message that failed to be conveyed via words, apparently- how much more difficult a message to convey via role-play? And because of the profound in-game differences between an arcanist who is religious enough to learn a few divine spells (while not multiclassing at all) and a PC who has actually multiclassed into a divine caster class (in D&D), my concern is non-trivial. The former adds a few divine spells to his bag of tricks while his breath weapon increases in [B][I]power and uses/day every level,[/I][/B] the latter probably gains power over the undead. That can lead to a huge disparity between expectations of play if the player & DM are not in agreement. That disparity affects everything from adventure design (the DM expecting the divinely infused PC to turn undead may increase amount & power of undead in the campaign...a power the player has no reason to expect to have), to playstyle and combat tactics & results (when the player maneuvers his PC into a position and informs the DM he's breathing lightning at the target...to be informed that he's fresh out of attempts). Thats a big gap between expectations, with REAL in-game consequences. And note, I'm just looking at the class [I]benefits[/I], not their strictures. So forgive me if I continue to damn D&D for this kind of game. [/QUOTE]

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