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<blockquote data-quote="ArcaneSpringboard" data-source="post: 5252721" data-attributes="member: 87400"><p>I'm not an adventurer. I just play one on Friday nights (well I did...now I'm back to trying to kill them <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" />).</p><p></p><p>However, I _am_ a player playing a game to have fun. Frankly, I don't think anything else matters. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, I can safely conclude that you would place yourself in the:</p><p></p><p>"No, the DM does not have any responsibility to make sure the players are having fun." column?</p><p></p><p>As I've stated before, I would have been much happier with the situation if my PC had flat out _died_ right away. At least I would have been saved the frustration for trying to find a solution to my problem and having my solutions knocked down immediately for no good reason. </p><p></p><p>Remember, my PC was _not_ the biggest threat...I'd hardly done anything the entire combat. I just happened to be the guy on the ground.</p><p></p><p>I would have also been spared my DM laughing while he played wack-a-mole with my sorcerer. I know that he was doing that because he was having lot of fun and he wasn't being malicious. However, at the time given the circumstances I was not having fun (and in fact, I'd probably put it as the least fun I've ever had playing D&D...and I've been playing a long time).</p><p></p><p>One of the things I love about 4e is that the DM can just let lose on the PCs as a <strong>group </strong>and not hold anything back. </p><p></p><p>However, there are aspects of the game, that can make it very un-fun at times for an <strong>individual</strong>.</p><p></p><p>I just happen to think the DM has to be aware of those situations and adjust on the fly. This is nothing different than not killing PCs constantly at 1st or 2nd level in earlier editions by fudging the dice. </p><p></p><p>It wouldn't have changed the combat encounter significantly if the Solo had attacked one of the other characters nearby. We all still survived, and it still died.</p><p></p><p>However, it would have been a lot more fun for me as a player.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArcaneSpringboard, post: 5252721, member: 87400"] I'm not an adventurer. I just play one on Friday nights (well I did...now I'm back to trying to kill them :devil:). However, I _am_ a player playing a game to have fun. Frankly, I don't think anything else matters. So, I can safely conclude that you would place yourself in the: "No, the DM does not have any responsibility to make sure the players are having fun." column? As I've stated before, I would have been much happier with the situation if my PC had flat out _died_ right away. At least I would have been saved the frustration for trying to find a solution to my problem and having my solutions knocked down immediately for no good reason. Remember, my PC was _not_ the biggest threat...I'd hardly done anything the entire combat. I just happened to be the guy on the ground. I would have also been spared my DM laughing while he played wack-a-mole with my sorcerer. I know that he was doing that because he was having lot of fun and he wasn't being malicious. However, at the time given the circumstances I was not having fun (and in fact, I'd probably put it as the least fun I've ever had playing D&D...and I've been playing a long time). One of the things I love about 4e is that the DM can just let lose on the PCs as a [B]group [/B]and not hold anything back. However, there are aspects of the game, that can make it very un-fun at times for an [B]individual[/B]. I just happen to think the DM has to be aware of those situations and adjust on the fly. This is nothing different than not killing PCs constantly at 1st or 2nd level in earlier editions by fudging the dice. It wouldn't have changed the combat encounter significantly if the Solo had attacked one of the other characters nearby. We all still survived, and it still died. However, it would have been a lot more fun for me as a player. [/QUOTE]
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