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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4305852" data-attributes="member: 32164">I agree that many people will want an 18 after racial modifiers. It's without doubt true that there are advantages to being min/maxed in that way. However, there's a benefit to odd stats in 4e.At 4th-level, when the first stat raise sets in, Character A (who has an 18 in his primary attack stat) and Character B (his 17 stat counterpart) both raise their primary stat 1 point. Character A goes from +4 to...+4. Character B, by contrast, goes from +3 to +4. Now, for 4 levels, B is totally caught up. Assuming they keep putting a boost into that every level, A pulls away at 8th-level, and gets caught (stat bonus-wise) again at Level 11.People are making a BIG deal about +1 to hit and damage. And it's good, no doubt. But it's not SO good that it's worth everything. I can think of plenty of totally viable characters that lack an 18 in their primary attack stat (at 1st-level).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 4305852, member: 32164"] I agree that many people will [i]want[/i] an 18 after racial modifiers. It's without doubt true that there are advantages to being min/maxed in that way. However, there's a benefit to odd stats in 4e. At 4th-level, when the first stat raise sets in, Character A (who has an 18 in his primary attack stat) and Character B (his 17 stat counterpart) both raise their primary stat 1 point. Character A goes from +4 to...+4. Character B, by contrast, goes from +3 to +4. Now, for 4 levels, B is totally caught up. Assuming they keep putting a boost into that every level, A pulls away at 8th-level, and gets caught (stat bonus-wise) again at Level 11. People are making a BIG deal about +1 to hit and damage. And it's good, no doubt. But it's not SO good that it's worth everything. I can think of plenty of totally viable characters that lack an 18 in their primary attack stat (at 1st-level). [/QUOTE]

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