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<blockquote data-quote="Ahglock" data-source="post: 4307216" data-attributes="member: 56725">I'm not sure I'd go for a 18 in most cases.&nbsp; I wont deny its probably more effective, but in most case when I make a character I prefer thematically a more even spread.&nbsp; And I do not think the hit in effectiveness will be particularly large.&nbsp; For wizards, I'd want a 20.&nbsp; This goes back to 1st edition where if I ever rolled a 18, I was like woot a wizard.&nbsp; I don't know why but the max spell level limit tied to int always kept me away if my int was not 18.&nbsp; Now its gone, but if I were to play a wizard instead of GM I'd still want max int.My preferred Wizard stats before racial mods:Str 8Dex 10Con 10Int 18Wis 13chr 13Dropping chr to 12 so the wizard would have a 13 when it hits the paragon tier is probably &quot;better&quot;.&nbsp; But I don't like it.Edit to add in the case of a Tiefling, I'd drop the chr to 10 or 11 and boost con to 12 or 13.&nbsp; You would still get spell focus, and would be a bit healthier.Double edit: Eladrin I would drop the chr to 12, raise the dex to 11, modified 13 and by th epic tief have a 15 dex for the cool dex feats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahglock, post: 4307216, member: 56725"] I'm not sure I'd go for a 18 in most cases. I wont deny its probably more effective, but in most case when I make a character I prefer thematically a more even spread. And I do not think the hit in effectiveness will be particularly large. For wizards, I'd want a 20. This goes back to 1st edition where if I ever rolled a 18, I was like woot a wizard. I don't know why but the max spell level limit tied to int always kept me away if my int was not 18. Now its gone, but if I were to play a wizard instead of GM I'd still want max int. My preferred Wizard stats before racial mods: Str 8 Dex 10 Con 10 Int 18 Wis 13 chr 13 Dropping chr to 12 so the wizard would have a 13 when it hits the paragon tier is probably "better". But I don't like it. Edit to add in the case of a Tiefling, I'd drop the chr to 10 or 11 and boost con to 12 or 13. You would still get spell focus, and would be a bit healthier. Double edit: Eladrin I would drop the chr to 12, raise the dex to 11, modified 13 and by th epic tief have a 15 dex for the cool dex feats. [/QUOTE]

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